More Americans Sever U.S. Ties as IRS Gets Tougher

[orwellian]

See, this is the problem with you and people of your ilk. You are so disconnected from reality. Just read your posts. You say that I labeled Alex Jones and his beliefs "conspiracy theories," when I never explicitly stated anything of a sort. You say that I *gasp* demonized you. Either you're imagining that too, or you have no idea what demonizing really is.

You did demonize him. Stick to issue at hand instead of trying to ridicule people.

It's really hard to debate issues with people that misconstrue the evidence and make ridiculous conclusions based on that misconstrued evidence. It's even harder to debate someone when she/he just makes things up out of thin air. Lastly, I think your apathy plays right into the hands of the corporate fat cats. You yourself say that we are "lambs to the slaughter." With that defeatist attitude, we sure are.

And you don't? At least you can debate redrum. He actually posts facts and opinions you can debate. As opposed to you that just ridicule.

 

[Choripán]

You did demonize him. Stick to issue at hand instead of trying to ridicule people.

And you don't? At least you can debate redrum. He actually posts facts and opinions you can debate. As opposed to you that just ridicule.

Sr. Orwellian, you give hyper-realist Eric Blair a bad name! The one thing neither you nor redrum nor Fred M or any of the other tighty righties on this site do is post facts! And that is indeed the root of the problem. As soon as someone takes the time to rebut your nonsense with factual content you simply vanish from the thread, only to reemerge later in another thread with the EXACT SAME NONSENSE. The weird thing is that you don't post opinions either. Just crazy-ass, jaw-droppingly insane fantasies that are fabricated down to the last detail.

In truth BradlyHale is right on track by calling you dipshits out as such. Apparently, you don't realize it, but no one is demonizing you. They're merely trying to understand you and, more specifically, how it's possible for any human being to come up with such a steady stream of complete nonsense. That is in fact the real story of this thread - not what you say (since you're just making that up as you go along), but the very fact that you say it.

You are nothing more than a spectacle and I'm guessing that you are probably actually insane or on drugs or some hobo with so much time on his hands he can't stop debasing an otherwise reasonable expat forum with useless political absurdities.

Please, make us all happy: write something factual and let's talk about it! But methinks you ain't got it in you.

 

[redrum]

Sr. Orwellian, you give hyper-realist Eric Blair a bad name! The one thing neither you nor redrum nor Fred M or any of the other tighty righties on this site do is post facts! And that is indeed the root of the problem. As soon as someone takes the time to rebut your nonsense with factual content you simply vanish from the thread, only to reemerge later in another thread with the EXACT SAME NONSENSE. The weird thing is that you don't post opinions either. Just crazy-ass, jaw-droppingly insane fantasies that are fabricated down to the last detail.

In truth BradlyHale is right on track by calling you dipshits out as such. Apparently, you don't realize it, but no one is demonizing you. They're merely trying to understand you and, more specifically, how it's possible for any human being to come up with such a steady stream of complete nonsense. That is in fact the real story of this thread - not what you say (since you're just making that up as you go along), but the very fact that you say it.

You are nothing more than a spectacle and I'm guessing that you are probably actually insane or on drugs or some hobo with so much time on his hands he can't stop debasing an otherwise reasonable expat forum with useless political absurdities.

Please, make us all happy: write something factual and let's talk about it! But methinks you ain't got it in you.

you seem to know quite a bit about the posting history of 3 different people for a guy that just joined this board last month.

sounds like YOU are the dipshit with too much time on his hands. again, all you are doing is attacking people.

sell crazy someplace else jackass. we're all stocked up here.

 

[orwellian]

The one thing neither you nor redrum nor Fred M or any of the other tighty righties on this site do is post facts!

I am a socialist, you can hardly accuse me of being right wing. I believe Redrum posted at least one fact stating how much money Obama has spent on sealing his records. So far I haven't seen you post a single fact in this thread. In fact, I can't recall debating you at all on this forum. Or were you using another username before?

And that is indeed the root of the problem. As soon as someone takes the time to rebut your nonsense with factual content you simply vanish from the thread, only to reemerge later in another thread with the EXACT SAME NONSENSE.

Give me one example where I have done that. Again, who are you? You have 28 posts in this forum. You seriously don't know what your talking about.

n truth BradlyHale is right on track by calling you dipshits out as such. Apparently, you don't realize it, but no one is demonizing you. They're merely trying to understand you and, more specifically, how it's possible for any human being to come up with such a steady stream of complete nonsense.

So what you are saying is that if you ridicule people, you're really just trying to understand them? You think ridicule will help you understand other people's view points?

You are nothing more than a spectacle and I'm guessing that you are probably actually insane or on drugs or some hobo with so much time on his hands he can't stop debasing an otherwise reasonable expat forum with useless political absurdities.

Yes of course, if someone don't happen to have the same opinion as you, they have to be either insane or on drugs. And debasing a forum is obviously ok as long as it is in line with your thinking, right?

Please, make us all happy: write something factual and let's talk about it! But methinks you ain't got it in you.

How about you start with debating the issues Redrum brought up? I have nothing more to add because I agree with most of what he posted. Or continue being a hypocrite and accuse me of not writing factual posts.

 

[Choripán]

I am a socialist, you can hardly accuse me of being right wing.

Uh? So you just happen to be the one socialist in the world who shares the same set of preposterous beliefs with the crazy right in America? I get it: You're the Zell Miller of the non-existent American socialist movement! Calling yourself a progressive and being one are two different things.

So what you are saying is that if you ridicule people, you're really just trying to understand them? You think ridicule will help you understand other people's view points?

What I'm saying is that you and redrum are so full of shit that there's not much more to do but laugh at you. I don't ridicule people; I ridicule YOU. There are certain things in life one must to bring to the table in order for other people to take you seriously. Credibility is one of them. When redrum invents his so-called facts - 16,000 IRS agents armed and ready to take you to prison, a fake birth certificate forged by the State of Hawaii more than 40 years in advance on the possibility that one unknown black Indonesian kid may run for president some day, $1.4 million paid to mob lawyers to seal Obama's records - and you then astonishingly endorse the nonsense, it's hard not to crack a smile. Indeed, it's INCREDIBLE - that is, beyond credible belief - that you would actually commit to something so obviously wrong in public. It's as if you don't care that you seem like an utter fool. I find this behavior hard to understand! So yes I want to understand you! But when I make jokes at your expense, I'm really just trying to share the love. I mean, seriously, as Alex from LA said, this is quite an amusing thread! Sometimes people need a good laugh to get through the day and you and redrum are always kind enough to supply the joke! And that joke, I'm sorry to report, is you.

Yes of course, if someone don't happen to have the same opinion as you, they have to be either insane or on drugs.

Actually, I think the most likely scenario is exactly the one you omitted from the list of options: you're a hobo with too much time on your hands. In fact, I know you're a hobo because I saw you chatting politics with a local transvestite a few days ago while panhandling on the corner of Santa Fe and Pueyrreddon. You asked me for a peso and I told you to get a real job. The transvestite also seemed to believe that the "mystery" of Obama's "missing" birth certificate is distressing and merits further discussion on baexpats.org. But to your credit you were quick to clarify that a reasonable hobo such as yourself believes that there are more important mysteries surrounding President Obama than his obviously foreign birth. And then you went on to rave about 16,000 IRS agents pouring into Buenos Aires to take you prisoner, and how you would fight to the death to avoid giving them the peso you just asked me for. You waved your arms in the air like you were chasing off flies and then amazingly you caught one and ate it. At that point I asked you to stop groping me and ran home as fast as I could. I found the experience more than a little unnerving.

All of this is absolutely true - no less than hard, cold fact - so just try to refute it! In fact if you do try to refute the story we'll all know that you're nothing more than a pawn of the left-wing media conspiracy! Suckaaaaah!

How about you start with debating the issues Redrum brought up? I have nothing more to add because I agree with most of what he posted. Or continue being a hypocrite and accuse me of not writing factual posts.

Glad you asked. Just one example from another thread where you and redrum are doing the same crazy hobo tag-team routine: the "fact" about Obama spending $1.4 million to "seal" his records. Where did you and your fellow hobo redrum learn about it? Not one credible news source - not even Fox - corroborates this absurd claim. Prove me wrong: post the link to any serious news organization reporting this "fact." You won't because there aren't any out there. Instead you will simply vanish in silence once again, chicken shit until the next crazy thread emerges full of inflamatory claims about Obama and the US government. In any event, from what I can glean, the rumor originated with the $1.4 million Obama was awarded along with his Nobel Peace Prize (which I concede was wholly unjustified). Conspiracy theorists took this figure and needed a reason for its existence. So they invented cash payments to corrupt lawyers for "sealed records." But before believing such nonsense a reasonable hobo would want to ask: Which "records" are they talking about? School? Taxes? Health? All have been released and widely reported on. What then is exactly "sealed?" Answer: nothing. The sealed records story is complete bullshit, another product of the right-wing internet echo chamber. Your buddy redrum, when of course he's not gniredrum soboh (so watch out!), is happy to pass along any crazy-ass shit he can so long as it subverts either Obama or common sense.

And sadly you fell for it like a hobo who's just been slipped a 10 peso bill by a transvestite named Rad encouraging you to renounce your American citizenship.

Orwellian, look at yourself, man! You look like a fucking fool for defending this nonsense. People want to take you seriously, but you have to try harder! Come join the reality based community! We are open to serious criticism of Obama and other political figures; indeed we encourage it. But your contribution must possess some minimal level of credibility. And that means you can't just make shit up. Redrum obviously does not meet this standard. But there is still time for you to save yourself! Unhitch your political wagon from the team of asses that's currently pulling it! You owe it to yourself!

 

[orwellian]

Wow, and you think I got too much time on my hands?

Yes I am a socialist and I can still have certain things in common with the nutty right.

And yes you are ridiculing me. I don't see why though when you simply can challenge me to produce evidence of my claims. If I can't find what you ask me to find I will have to admit I was wrong. Instead you make up this long story what I bum I am. Who's being ridiculous?

The $1.4 million claim is not a valid example as it was posted AFTER I asked you to give provide me with an example. But since you brought it up, yes you do have a point. There doesn't seem to be much relevance to the claim that he spent money on sealing his records. He does however not release them. Which wouldn't be strange if the reason he doesn't is because he is a C student. Also, a reason he hasn't released his real birth certificate could simply be that it's lost.

http://www.nysun.com/new-york/obamas-years-at-columbia-are-a-mystery/85015/
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_were_Barack_Obama's_grades_in_college

Now we should get back on topic.

 

[Choripán]

There doesn't seem to be much relevance to the claim that he spent money on sealing his records. He does however not release them. Which wouldn't be strange if the reason he doesn't is because he is a C student.

So your issue is that Obama has not released his college transcripts, right? THIS is the big mystery surrounding Obama? And from that exactly what conspiracy do you deduce? That he was never a student at either Columbia, or that he did not graduate with honors? Strange that it all comes down to such a trivial point. HEADLINE: Barack Obama may have been a mediocre college student and thus ... hmm ... what exactly does this mean ... thus he is unqualified to be president of the United States???

What qualifies you to be president of the United States is not your college grades but rather the fact that you earned more votes than they guy that ran against you. Think about this for a while and I believe the idea of how a democracy works will finally sink through all the hate-based conspiracy madness that has clearly addled your otherwise sound mind.

You posted for evidence a link to a two year old NY Sun article, published during the campaign in an attempt to discredit Obama. Obviously you were trolling for anything you could find to save face because you ignored the overwhelming number of other stories that say just the opposite. Perhaps more importantly, and in response to the partisan nonsense of various right wing rags like the NY Sun, Columbia University has published its own account of Obama's status as a student. Seems like they've put your conspiracy fantasy to bed. For even more information, try reading this before you embarrass yourself again.

Also, a reason he hasn't released his real birth certificate could simply be that it's lost.

See now there you go talking all crazy again! You just can't stop yourself! He has released his "real" birth certificate; nothing was ever "lost" (except, maybe, your mind). What is in the public sphere now is all that was ever issued at the time of his birth: that is, a fucking 100% authentic fully extant birth certificate! For god's sake read this! And please don't try to assert that factchecker.org is part of the liberal media conspiracy. But of course you can always take the redrum route and say that everything is fake. What the hell, why not just say that reality itself is fake. Maybe you're just a hobo brain floating in a vat of Fernet denying all the while that something called the real world, one that includes normal birth certificates and, apparently, your sense of personal dignity, exists at all.

Now we should get back on topic.

As mini has made perfectly clear, the real topic here is how someone like you can keep throwing this nonsense out into the public sphere despite overwhelming evidence that you are utterly full of shit. This is nothing more than a psychological case study and you, my friend, are the subject.

While you are at factchecker.org take a look at this and puh-leeeze shut the fuck up about Obama's patriotism! It only makes you look like an (even bigger) ass!

See you in the next thread, pal.

 

[orwellian]

You posted for evidence a link to a two year old NY Sun article, published during the campaign in an attempt to discredit Obama. Obviously you were trolling for anything you could find to save face because you ignored the overwhelming number of other stories that say just the opposite.

First of all I posted that because I happen to come across it while googling and it was not meant to prove anything. My point was that if he got bad grades maybe that is why he is trying to make sure they don't leak. That's all.
Secondly you challenged me to find mainstream articles, and when I did so, you say I am trolling. Jeez, whatever I do is wrong in your book right?

And I just admitted I was wrong but you still keep on with the annoying ridicule.

A live birth certificate is not the same as a real one. I have already proved that. Not that it matters though.

And no, the topic here is about Americans severing their ties to their country due to the IRS.

 

[TheJag]

Choripan: You are dead nuts about Orwellian, except he is not right wing at all.

Orwellian is the special nut that thinks any American politician is the root of all evil whether if they are liberal or conservative.

 

[AlexfromLA]

LOL@ spending 1.4 M on sealing records. Hahahaha.

Who would honestly believe that. Oh yeah I forgot :|


Keep the hits coming guys, this is better than glen Becks stand up comedy routine.