Overstayed Visa--How Many Times Is This Acceptable?

[steveinbsas]

Many of the illegals in the US (from all over the world) came on either tourist visas, student visas, or temporary work visas. When the clock ran out on their visas they just "overstayed". The consequence is if caught they can be jailed, then deported - in many cases there are repeat offenders; and they end up with 5, 10, 20 year bans or permanently barred from entering the US.

This statement makes me wonder where you were living last year and if you had access to news from the US.

As US Senator Jeff Sessions posted on his senate webpage on June 3, 2014:

“President Obama is personally responsible for ‘rising crisis’ at border.”

"The rising crisis at the border is the direct and predictable result of actions taken by President Obama. He and his Administration have announced to the world that they will not enforce America’s immigration laws, and have emphasized in particular that foreign youth will be exempted from these laws. The world has heard the President’s call, and illegal immigrants are pouring across the border in pursuit of his promised amnesty. President Obama is responsible for this calamity, and only by declaring to the world that our border is no longer open — and that the law will be restored — can this emergency be stopped."

"Sessions noted that even the New York Times has reported that the Obama administration’s lack of enforcement has become widely known throughout Latin America, saying that the United States might as well hang a sign saying “open” across the U.S. border."

Source: http://www.thenewame...grants-into-u-s

 

[ajoknoblauch]

This statement makes me wonder where you were living last year and if you had access to news from the US.



As US Senator Jeff Sessions posted on his senate webpage on June 3, 2014:

“President Obama is personally responsible for ‘rising crisis’ at border.”

"The rising crisis at the border is the direct and predictable result of actions taken by President Obama. He and his Administration have announced to the world that they will not enforce America’s immigration laws, and have emphasized in particular that foreign youth will be exempted from these laws. The world has heard the President’s call, and illegal immigrants are pouring across the border in pursuit of his promised amnesty. President Obama is responsible for this calamity, and only by declaring to the world that our border is no longer open — and that the law will be restored — can this emergency be stopped."


"Sessions noted that even the New York Times has reported that the Obama administration’s lack of enforcement has become widely known throughout Latin America, saying that the United States might as well hang a sign saying “open” across the U.S. border."

Source: http://www.thenewame...grants-into-u-s

Indeed, before Obama it would never have occurred to anybody to have even attempted to cross the US southern border. The heroic Ronald Reagan, by contrast, kept the country safe from those fearsome dark-skinned hordes: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=128303672

Jeff Sessions is one of dimmest bulbs of the paranoid right, but he's got plenty of company.

 

[steveinbsas]

Indeed, before Obama it would never have occurred to anybody to have even attempted to cross the US southern border. The heroic Ronald Reagan, by contrast, kept the country safe from those fearsome dark-skinned hordes: http://www.npr.org/t...oryId=128303672

Jeff Sessions is one of dimmest bulbs of the paranoid right, but he's got plenty of company.

This is an excellent example of Alinsky strategy: dodge the issue by focusing on Ronald Regan and attacking Sessions' intelligence rather than actually dealing with the issue of illegal immigration and the lack of enforcement of the existing laws during the current administration's tenure.

Saul would be proud.

PS: Throwing in the race card with the exp<b></b>ression "fearsome dark-skinned hordes" was a nice touch. Always play the race card when you have the chance.

Jesse and Al would be proud, too.

 

[ajoknoblauch]

This is an excellent example of Alinsky strategy: dodge the issue by focusing on Ronald Regan and attacking Sessions' intelligence rather than actually dealing with the issue of illegal immigration and the lack of enforcement of the existing laws during the current administration's tenure.

Saul would be proud.

PS: Throwing in the race card with the exp<b></b>ression "fearsome dark-skinned hordes" was a nice touch. Always play the race card when you have the chance.

Jesse and Al would be proud, too.

Who was Ronald Regan? Another of those heroic border defenders? Mr. Sessions's statements speak for themselves - clear but clueless, and suffering from the same terminal irony deficiency and reactionary viciousness that characterized his Alabama predecessors and heroes (most notably George Wallace). You do a great job of building the case against Sessions and his ilk.

 

[cwo4uscgret]

This statement makes me wonder where you were living last year and if you had access to news from the US.

As US Senator Jeff Sessions posted on his senate webpage on June 3, 2014:

“President Obama is personally responsible for ‘rising crisis’ at border.”

"The rising crisis at the border is the direct and predictable result of actions taken by President Obama. He and his Administration have announced to the world that they will not enforce America’s immigration laws, and have emphasized in particular that foreign youth will be exempted from these laws. The world has heard the President’s call, and illegal immigrants are pouring across the border in pursuit of his promised amnesty. President Obama is responsible for this calamity, and only by declaring to the world that our border is no longer open — and that the law will be restored — can this emergency be stopped."

"Sessions noted that even the New York Times has reported that the Obama administration’s lack of enforcement has become widely known throughout Latin America, saying that the United States might as well hang a sign saying “open” across the U.S. border."

Source: http://www.thenewame...grants-into-u-s

Steve - for the last 11 years and until I retired in August of last year, (and still do) I live in Port Huron, MI and was a US Customs and Border Protection Officer on the border between the US and Canada.

The News Media in the US has become a political joke. There is more politicizing the news by both the liberal left and the conservative right that makes me question everything on the news programs. Do I know what the idiot in Washington has decreed with regards to the flow of illegal aliens into the US? Do I ever. It is selective; and for some reason or other on the northern border (before I retired) it was business as usual. For many years if a group of illegals were refused entry to Canada and returned to the US (refused for lack of proof of citizenship) it was an exercise in futility. Unless someone had a criminal record (surprise, surprise, many did) the illegals were processed to include fingerprinting, photographing, interviewed to make sure they weren't in fear of their lives if returned to their country of origin, etc. about a 3-4 hour process - that was required to be done - after processing they were given a court order to appear before an immigration judge within 6 months of the date of the order and were allowed to get in their cars and drive away - but not to try to cross the Canadian Border.

Frustrating? Officers handcuffed in doing their jobs? Political at the highest level of the government? That and a whole lot more - more then you can imagine. Imagine three officers being physically assaulted by someone, injuries requiring medical attention; and a US Attorney's Office declining to prosecute. Of course (and he should have been prosecuted) an officer, caught downloading child porn on his personal computer using a government server, prosecuted by the same US Attorney. Apparently the assault of the officers didn't fit the political agenda of the Attorney General but the other issue did.

Perhaps I am a bit harsh when I try to apply my integrity to the situation of repeated overstaying on tourist visas. Like you Steve - you made a decision to reside in Argentina years ago and you applied, to legally become a resident. My wife and I visited Buenos Aires twice now, once in 2012 and in December 2014 - January 2015. We will be back again either next year or in two years; as temporary visitors. We will also spend 3-4 months in Colombia next winter; and the paperwork for a temporary resident is being worked on. I don't know but those lessons my parents taught my 2 brothers and I growing up about doing the right thing, being honest, and taking responsibility for our actions - lessons taught to my children as well, those lessons help me to sleep at night and wake up without any guilt or fear that a knock on the door may be some law enforcement agency ready to drag me away kicking and screaming.

 

[ajoknoblauch]

PS: Throwing in the race card with the exp<b></b>ression "fearsome dark-skinned hordes" was a nice touch. Always play the race card when you have the chance.

Of course. In Mr. Sessions's enlightened Alabama, prejudice is just a relic of the past used to slander upstanding citizens: http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/hate-map#s=AL

 

[nicoenarg]

Of course. In Mr. Sessions's enlightened Alabama, prejudice is just a relic of the past used to slander upstanding citizens: http://www.splcenter...d/hate-map#s=AL

Were you trying to make a point with that map? California: http://www.splcenter...d/hate-map#s=CA New York: http://www.splcenter...d/hate-map#s=NY etc.

According to these maps, Alaska, along with North Dakota, are the best States to live in within the US: http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/hate-map#s=AK and http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/hate-map#s=ND

 

[ajoknoblauch]

Were you trying to make a point with that map? California: http://www.splcenter...d/hate-map#s=CA New York: http://www.splcenter...d/hate-map#s=NY etc.

According to these maps, Alaska, along with North Dakota, are the best States to live in within the US: http://www.splcenter...d/hate-map#s=AK and http://www.splcenter...d/hate-map#s=ND

But didn't the isolationist in his compound near Bahía Blanca tell us that this was all in the past? In reality, the anti-immigrant hysteria is everywhere, but it's worst in the Old South.

 

[nicoenarg]

But didn't the isolationist in his compound near Bahía Blanca tell us that this was all in the past? In reality, the anti-immigrant hysteria is everywhere, but it's worst in the Old South.

No, you seem to have understood it that way:

Of course. In Mr. Sessions's enlightened Alabama, prejudice is just a relic of the past used to slander upstanding citizens: http://www.splcenter...d/hate-map#s=AL

Steve didn't bring up race, you did. Anyway, even according to your own sources California has the most "hate groups" in it and California wasn't part of the "Old South" or "Deep South" for that matter.

Anywho, yes anti-immigrant sentiment exists everywhere, but it doesn't always have to do with race. Ceviche has been writing about European and American "illegal" immigration to Argentina and how he doesn't like it, no one told him to calm down with his "racism".

 

[ajoknoblauch]

No, you seem to have understood it that way:



Steve didn't bring up race, you did. Anyway, even according to your own sources California has the most "hate groups" in it and California wasn't part of the "Old South" or "Deep South" for that matter.

Anywho, yes anti-immigrant sentiment exists everywhere, but it doesn't always have to do with race. Ceviche has been writing about European and American "illegal" immigration to Argentina and how he doesn't like it, no one told him to calm down with his "racism".

Sessions doesn't have to say it openly, as he's got the code words down pat.

We've got plenty of hate groups throughout the US, but nowhere are they so pervasive as in the Deep South. In California, they're the fringe; in Alabama and Mississippi, among others, they're mainstream. But if you prefer to deny the reality, well, you'll probably continue doing so.