The Best Reason Now To Be An Expat In Argentina...

[GS_Dirtboy]

Let's see....

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-Keeping a gulag like prison in Guantanamo, check
-Using the IRS to harass political opponents, check.
-Supporting laws that would criminalize criticism of the secret courts and warrantless tappings, check.
- Seizing private records from the press without court orders, check.
-Maintaining a clandestine (and illegal) program for sending weapons to Mexican drug dealers. Check.
-Having his staff deliberately and knowingly lie to congress about the NSA tappings. Check.

Sounds like a dictator to me, irrelevant of being elected or not.

Just a couple of checks...

I don't like Guantanamo either, but I think it is far from "gulag-like." Can you expand on using the IRS against political opponents and criminalizing criticism?

 

[camberiu]

Just a couple of checks...

I don't like Guantanamo either, but I think it is far from "gulag-like." Can you expand on using the IRS against political opponents and criminalizing criticism?

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And I do find Guantanamo to be very Gulag like. You are held there without charge and without appeal. If you there, it must be because you are guilty, just like in the Gulag. Torture is practiced there. It is not identical to a Gulag, but it is very Gulag like.

 

[Ries]

I still dont see how its better for an Expat who is morally opposed to providing health care to all the citizens is better off living in a country that provides health care to all its citizens, as opposed to one that doesnt.

Even if you dont have a regular job in Argentina, and, hence, dont have a deduction from your paycheck for Obras Sociales, just living in Argentina means you pay taxes, directly and indirectly, that go to subsidize the socialist health care system.
Certainly, given the Argentine governments laxness with fiscal and financial affairs, you cannot claim that the funds for health care are somehow notfungible- ALL Argentine government funds are intermixed.
That means that Steve pays for the socialist health care system here, with his hard earned libertarian pesos and dollars, both directly thru sales, property, and other taxes he pays, and indirectly thru taxes added to every single financial transaction in Argentina.

So, as an expat living in Argentina, you help support subsidized socialist health care.

As a citizen of the US living in the USA, its still perfectly legal to buy private insurance, and float your own boat.

Also, as an expat living in Argentina, you benefit every day from the socialist health care, even if you never go to a public hospital, and have supplementary private insurance. Your prices on all kinds of things are lower, because well over half the population, including the people you buy fruit, or gas, or tools, or clothes from all are "looters" who use the public health care system. If all those people had to pay for private insurance, their prices would all go up.

So as an expat here, you not only PAY the demon socialists, but you BENEFIT from their programs.

As ol' John Lennon said- "How Do You Sleep?"

 

[pitipur]

I've had lots of talks with Argentines my age since I arrived, most of them talking about the perception of the US, and how everything is so easy, etc. Sure, for me, things are relatively easy, but I have a decent job and was fortunate enough to get a scholarship to college, and obviously that's not the case for most people. But I always remind them that they are free of two of our biggest expenses in the US: college and healthcare. There's something to be said about the majority of your early 20s population not starting out their careers with tens of thousands of dollars in debt, or not being financially ruined for life because you were in an accident caused by someone else.

 

[camberiu]

I've had lots of talks with Argentines my age since I arrived, most of them talking about the perception of the US, and how everything is so easy, etc. Sure, for me, things are relatively easy, but I have a decent job and was fortunate enough to get a scholarship to college, and obviously that's not the case for most people. But I always remind them that they are free of two of our biggest expenses in the US: college and healthcare. There's something to be said about the majority of your early 20s population not starting out their careers with tens of thousands of dollars in debt, or not being financially ruined for life because you were in an accident caused by someone else.

I am sorry, but as someone who lived all the way up to my teenage years in South America, I agree with them. Life in the US is EXTREMELY EASY, even today, when compared to LATAM. Kids in the US have no idea how good they have, and usually squander their opportunities left and right. I saw that often during my classes in college. I went to a state university in the South (paying out of state tuition) and had only enough money for the first semester. Had to work my ass off to pay for the rest (never relied on student loans) while taking 24 credits (the maximum allowed) every semester. I finished my 4 year degree in 2 and half. All other LATAM students in my school at the time did similarly. And we still could not believe how easy and full of opportunity the US was. Because we realized that we had a once in a lifetime change that the people we left behind did not, we grabbed it with all the strength we had and gave it our best. Meanwhile, most American kids took if for granted.

 

[pitipur]

I am sorry, but as someone who lived all the way up to my teenage years in South America, I agree with them. Life in the US is EXTREMELY EASY, even today, when compared to LATAM. Kids in the US have no idea how good they have, and usually squander their opportunities left and right. I saw that often during my classes in college. I went to a state university in the South (paying out of state tuition) and had only enough money for the first semester. Had to work my ass off to pay for the rest (never relied on student loans) while taking 24 credits (the maximum allowed) every semester. I finished my 4 year degree in 2 and half. All other LATAM students in my school at the time did similarly. And we still could not believe how easy and full of opportunity the US was. Because we realized that we had a once in a lifetime change that the people we left behind did not, we grabbed it with all the strength we had and gave it our best. Meanwhile, most American kids took if for granted.

I wasn't saying one was easier or harder than the other, just that nowhere is perfect and there are different problems in every country, and for the US, i think some of our biggest problems are the crazy cost of education and healthcare. It's certainly not the utopia it is sometimes made out to be, especially if you are in the lower half of the income spectrum.

 

[pauper]

I still dont see how its better for an Expat who is morally opposed to providing health care to all the citizens is better off living in a country that provides health care to all its citizens, as opposed to one that doesnt.

Even if you dont have a regular job in Argentina, and, hence, dont have a deduction from your paycheck for Obras Sociales, just living in Argentina means you pay taxes, directly and indirectly, that go to subsidize the socialist health care system.
Certainly, given the Argentine governments laxness with fiscal and financial affairs, you cannot claim that the funds for health care are somehow notfungible- ALL Argentine government funds are intermixed.
That means that Steve pays for the socialist health care system here, with his hard earned libertarian pesos and dollars, both directly thru sales, property, and other taxes he pays, and indirectly thru taxes added to every single financial transaction in Argentina.

So, as an expat living in Argentina, you help support subsidized socialist health care.

As a citizen of the US living in the USA, its still perfectly legal to buy private insurance, and float your own boat.

Also, as an expat living in Argentina, you benefit every day from the socialist health care, even if you never go to a public hospital, and have supplementary private insurance. Your prices on all kinds of things are lower, because well over half the population, including the people you buy fruit, or gas, or tools, or clothes from all are "looters" who use the public health care system. If all those people had to pay for private insurance, their prices would all go up.

So as an expat here, you not only PAY the demon socialists, but you BENEFIT from their programs.

As ol' John Lennon said- "How Do You Sleep?"

Presumably in a fortified compound with a 12 gauge in one hand and a copy of Atlas Shrugged in the other.

 

[EdRooney]

Is there someway I can "Like" on the fact that Arlean "Liked" GS Dirtboy's Ayn Rand moment?

 

[ajoknoblauch]

Libertarians often mean well, but they are even more often naive and/or irrational.

 

[Dublin2BuenosAires]

Libertarians often mean well, but they are even more often naive and/or irrational.

You should sell these pithy one liners to fortune cookie companies.