The Pope Is Argentine

[camberiu]

The new pope is anti abortion and anti gay marriage....

Bah che, y eso no es lo peor.

 

[va2ba]

Does anyone care to venture a guess what would have happened had someone in the church come out against the dictatorship? People like to say that if the church had spoken against the junta that they wouldn't have been able to commit the atrocities that they did, which is absolute nonsense. A dictatorship hellbent on committing kidnappings and torturing and murdering it's own people will not be swayed because a religious institution spoke out against their actions.

If he or the church had taken a public stand, the dictatorship simply would have come after him and the church and thousands more would have disappeared. And while he did not speak out against the junta, he claims that he hid people on church property to keep them safe and that he interceded to save two priests who had been kidnapped.

http://news.yahoo.com/francis-first-pope-americas-193844474.html

None of us can possible know what he or any other leader in the church during the junta went through or what they thought. One man, no matter his stature, would not have been able to stop the dictatorship.

 

[RichardP]

The stock market is happy:
http://blogs.marketwatch.com/thetell/2013/03/13/argentinas-merval-stock-index-popped-as-new-pope-francis-elected/

 

[camberiu]

Does anyone care to venture a guess what would have happened had someone in the church come out against the dictatorship?

I am practicing atheist. But if I were a catholic, I'd answer this question with: What would Jesus do?

 

[Rich One]

Francesco I Pontifice, ...!! has ordered an Argentine made Papa Movil...

 

[va2ba]

I am practicing atheist. But if I were a catholic, I'd answer this question with: Would would Jesus do?

That doesn't answer the question. The question is, what would have happened?

 

[camberiu]

That doesn't answer the question. The question is, what would have happened?

For a true Christian, the outcome should not matter. Didn't the Christians gladly die in the circus, eaten alive by lions?

 

[Bajo_cero2]

Does anyone care to venture a guess what would have happened had someone in the church come out against the dictatorship? People like to say that if the church had spoken against the junta that they wouldn't have been able to commit the atrocities that they did, which is absolute nonsense. A dictatorship hellbent on committing kidnappings and torturing and murdering it's own people will not be swayed because a religious institution spoke out against their actions.

If he or the church had taken a public stand, the dictatorship simply would have come after him and the church and thousands more would have disappeared. And while he did not speak out against the junta, he claims that he hid people on church property to keep them safe and that he interceded to save two priests who had been kidnapped.

http://news.yahoo.co...-193844474.html

None of us can possible know what he or any other leader in the church during the junta went through or what they thought. One man, no matter his stature, would not have been able to stop the dictatorship.

With all my respect, your comment is naive.
If you made a deep reading of the 70 s in Argentina you can see an internal affaire of the church between the curas tercermundistas and people like Bergoglio. Montoneros began as a catholic group. Tacuara was another catholic ilegal force, the AAA too, and so on. The ERP is another story.

So, the Church wasn t affraid of Videla, instead, the church was very involved in the genocide in this country.

 

[va2ba]

For a true Christian, the outcome should not matter. Didn't the Christians gladly die in the circus, eaten alive by lions?

A hypothetical scenario:

He takes a public stand against the junta and the other leaders in the church follow suit. Would that cause the junta to change course?

[background=transparent]Maybe they do, but I honestly don't think that they would have.[/background]

[background=transparent]So if they don't change:[/background]

We know that the junta had a habit of going after critics of their government, be is teachers, journalist or anyone else. If the junta wanted to respond to a public reprimand from the church, they are not going to go after the leaders themselves. That would have been to public. It would have been an outrage and it would have been undeniable in the eyes of the general public. So instead, they find another way. They go after others in the church. Ordinary people who had no part in what the church leaders said.

Who knows how many more people could have been kidnapped, tortured and killed.

This is purely hypothetical and a thousand other things could have happened. But if this was the outcome, wouldn't that have mattered?

 

[sleslie23]

i bet he shits in the woods too!

Dammit! You beat me to it. But I was gonna ask: Does the new pope shit in the Bosques de Palermo?