The pregnant Russian trafficking network

[Redpossum]

El último "acompañante" de las embarazadas rusas mostró en Ezeiza un pasaporte con "alerta naranja" de Interpol | Allanamientos en Puerto Madero

La justicia investiga la existencia de una red de tráfico ilegal de personas y obtención irregular de pasaportes. La organización ofrece oportunidades para dar a luz en suelo argentino y documentación migratoria por el pago de 35.000 dólares.

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This story will make the cynics among our community smile cynically-

But the issue did not end there: every day dozens of pregnant Russians arrive on flights from Moscow. Last night another 14 arrived, accompanied by a man. They had no problems entering the country, but when it was time to go through Immigration, the "in charge" of the group showed a passport that had an "orange alert" from Interpol, for which they were prevented from entering and ordered to the airline to return it to Moscow.

At that moment, the man faked fainting to buy time and, while he was being treated, a lawyer from the same organization that prosecuted the case and aspires to get the entry authorized arrived. The prognosis is reserved because "humanitarian" elements do not appear in his situation and his document appears as "lost" in the international police archives.

It is infuriating to see someone manipulating things so cynically.

 

[Jtee125]

Was quite surprised to see this towards the top of bbc news yesterday:

Pregnant Russian women flying to Argentina for citizenship, officials say

The women are trying to ensure their children obtain Argentinian citizenship, officials say.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Rich One]

The conditions of the 6 pregnant Russian women retained at Ezeiza were inhumane , 2 days in a room with only chairs and no access to personal effects for personal higiene, assume a bathroom was available. Later transferred to another space with sofas where they could sit more comfortably. After 6 days in confinement were released

Haven't yet seen in the media a group of local feminist mothers that have spoken firmly on behalf of the confined pregnant Russian Women.

 

[antipodean]

The conditions of the 6 pregnant Russian women retained at Ezeiza were inhumane , 2 days in a room with only chairs and no access to personal effects for personal higiene, assume a bathroom was available. Later transferred to another space with sofas where they could sit more comfortably. After 6 days in confinement were released

Haven't yet seen in the media a group of local feminist mothers that have spoken firmly on behalf of the confined pregnant Russian Women.

Were they actually detained or simply transferred to the departures area to await deportation? Or are we talking about different groups of denied entries? The photos and videos in the news clearly show them laying down in the departure lounge - plenty of options in terms of restaurants, shops, bathrooms, seating, cafes, and lounges to choose from.... hardly inhumane. And was it because immigration was "holding" them, or because they were refusing or challenging the deportation flight that was offered?

Being "held" at an airport is something that happens everywhere in the world on a daily basis if an immigration officer denies you entry while you wait for a flight home or try to appeal the decision. You're not going to spend a night at an airport Marriott while awaiting deportation anywhere in the world. However in many countries, Russia and the USA included, it means waiting out deportation in an airport cell, or worse, an offsite detention center that is less than comfortable and certainly less comfortable than the Ezeiza departures lounge! For that reason, all travelers should ensure they have their sh!t together before they get on a plane - and according to Migraciones and the judge who dealt with their case, these ladies could have chosen to go to an Argentine embassy or consulate, and get a visa beforehand but they chose not to hence Migraciones did indeed follow due process.

Anyhow, the guy wanted by Interpol also lodged an appeal to stay.
At this point, migration officers should just go home and hang an "open" sign on the gates... give it a few more years and another wave of war criminals wanted by Interpol from that part of the world will also be arriving, just like they were welcomed here in the mid-20th century that Migraciones were "powerless" to stop.

La audiencia para expulsar al ciudadano ruso buscado por Interpol se postergó hasta mañana por falta de traductor

Valentin Kazantsev, de 38 años, esbozó “razones sanitarias” para que le permitan ingresar a la Argentina, ya que “no quiere ir a la guerra”, precisaron a Infobae fuentes judiciales. Su situación se da en el marco de las recientes investigaciones por organizaciones ilegales que les cobran USD 35...

www.infobae.com

 

[dsp27]

The conditions of the 6 pregnant Russian women retained at Ezeiza were inhumane , 2 days in a room with only chairs and no access to personal effects for personal higiene, assume a bathroom was available. Later transferred to another space with sofas where they could sit more comfortably. After 6 days in confinement were released

Haven't yet seen in the media a group of local feminist mothers that have spoken firmly on behalf of the confined pregnant Russian Women.

They were refused entry and the airlines was required to take them back and Ethiopian got them seats on the next flight home. The women refused to be flown back, they lodged a legal challenge -- they already had a lawyer on standby (thru their "handlers") that showed up within a few hours to fight the extradition. I do agree that the case could have been handled better by the authorities (maybe given conditional admission at a hotel while awaiting the court's decision) but according to Migraciones they had medical checks every 3 hours, were given food and water. No one forced them to fly to Argentina on a 30 hour flight 8 months pregnant as "tourists". Certainly they were taken much better care than what pregnant Ukrainian women have to go through while the Russians bomb their cities and infrastructure.

 

[Rich One]

Were they actually detained or simply transferred to the departures area to await deportation? Or are we talking about different groups of denied entries? The photos and videos in the news clearly show them laying down in the departure lounge - plenty of options in terms of restaurants, shops, bathrooms, seating, cafes, and lounges to choose from.... hardly inhumane. And was it because immigration was "holding" them, or because they were refusing or challenging the deportation flight that was offered?

Being "held" at an airport is something that happens everywhere in the world on a daily basis if an immigration officer denies you entry while you wait for a flight home or try to appeal the decision. You're not going to spend a night at an airport Marriott while awaiting deportation anywhere in the world. However in many countries, Russia and the USA included, it means waiting out deportation in an airport cell, or worse, an offsite detention center that is less than comfortable and certainly less comfortable than the Ezeiza departures lounge! For that reason, all travelers should ensure they have their sh!t together before they get on a plane - and according to Migraciones and the judge who dealt with their case, these ladies could have chosen to go to an Argentine embassy or consulate, and get a visa beforehand but they chose not to hence Migraciones did indeed follow due process.

Anyhow, the guy wanted by Interpol also lodged an appeal to stay.
At this point, migration officers should just go home and hang an "open" sign on the gates... give it a few more years and another wave of war criminals wanted by Interpol from that part of the world will also be arriving, just like they were welcomed here in the mid-20th century that Migraciones were "powerless" to stop.

La audiencia para expulsar al ciudadano ruso buscado por Interpol se postergó hasta mañana por falta de traductor

Valentin Kazantsev, de 38 años, esbozó “razones sanitarias” para que le permitan ingresar a la Argentina, ya que “no quiere ir a la guerra”, precisaron a Infobae fuentes judiciales. Su situación se da en el marco de las recientes investigaciones por organizaciones ilegales que les cobran USD 35...

www.infobae.com

I was not referring to the most recent Group of Russian women that came led in by an Interpol wanted Russian.
The previous group of 6 pregnant Russian Women were detained and had no access to restos etc. All what you mentioned does Not apply (Wrong tree).They had to sleep on the floor.
Request VISA ? under what category ?

They were refused entry and the airlines was required to take them back and Ethiopian got them seats on the next flight home. The women refused to be flown back, they lodged a legal challenge -- they already had a lawyer on standby (thru their "handlers") that showed up within a few hours to fight the extradition. I do agree that the case could have been handled better by the authorities (maybe given conditional admission at a hotel while awaiting the court's decision) but according to Migraciones they had medical checks every 3 hours, were given food and water. No one forced them to fly to Argentina on a 30 hour flight 8 months pregnant as "tourists". Certainly they were taken much better care than what pregnant Ukrainian women have to go through while the Russians bomb their cities and infrastructure.

The Russian women are escaping from a dictatorship and war, looking for a better future, they deserve compassion. They are Immigrants like the ones that came escaping from the Tsars Pogroms. They aren't Putin soldiers.

 

[TejanoExpat]

The so-called leaders of whatever country are controlled by powerful interest groups and billionaire oligarchs.
they are the 1% or maybe 1/10th of 1% of the economic pyramid. The lower 99% are trying to survive by whatever
means possible.

 

[dsp27]

I was not referring to the most recent Group of Russian women that came led in by an Interpol wanted Russian.
The previous group of 6 pregnant Russian Women were detained and had no access to restos etc. All what you mentioned does Not apply (Wrong tree).They had to sleep on the floor.
Request VISA ? under what category ?

Refugee visas. Etc. They all conveniently fly to Argentina at 33 weeks pregnant not earlier. If you are "running away" from conflict you don't really have the luxury of timing.
They had to sleep on the floor? So what. They had to sit packed for 25+ hours 8 months pregnant probably in economy half way across the globe at their own volition. They were offered free flights back home they said no. Pregnant women are stranded at airports due to flights cancelation in transit all the time! And yes they sleep on the floor, that's why most airlines refuse to fly pregnante women late in their pregnancy...

The Russian women are escaping from a dictatorship and war, looking for a better future, they deserve compassion. They are Immigrants like the ones that came escaping from the Tsars Pogroms. They aren't Putin soldiers.

Not true for 80+% of them. Migraciones records show most leave the country within 5 weeks of giving birth with their children registered as Argentinos.
Again those that are really here to stay and contribute and radicarse are WELCOME. Not freeloaders though. Here is an article about that minority.

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www.lanacion.com.ar

 

[lunar]

They had to sleep on the floor? So what. They had to sit packed for 25+ hours 8 months pregnant ...

Nice. The complete lack of empathy. You should think about becoming a prison guard.

 

[dsp27]

Nice. The complete lack of empathy. You should think about becoming a prison guard.

lol. I do have empathy. I did say several times that the authorities should have handled this better. But let's no dramatize the whole story and play the victim card. Just because you are pregnant does not mean you can do annoying you want and get alway with it. Pregnant women do go to jail. Again these women at their own will flew half way across the globe when offered to be flown back they refused. End of story,