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[Bajo_cero2]

The assert about that Uber does not have to pay taxes here becauae the lack of residence is wrong.

This is a benefit for residents who are living abroad.

Uber has to pays taxes because the busisness happend here.

 

[thorsten]

no it's not.

How would they do it? Blocking the IP - just change it. Block the DNS name, just update your app to use another server. So in order to effectively block it, they'd need to prevent users from getting the latest app...

 

[Bajo_cero2]

Well, ask the chinese, they banned 98% of internetZ

 

[TrevorCito]

The assert about that Uber does not have to pay taxes here becauae the lack of residence is wrong.

This is a benefit for residents who are living abroad.

Uber has to pays taxes because the busisness happend here.

Not true because it all depends on the tax treaty argentina has with the country of tax residence Uber has. Tax treaties exist so that companies and persons don't pay tax twice so in the case of Uber, they pay tax on profits in the country in which they reside, not Argentina.

It seems you could be confusing immigration residency with tax residency, yes? A common mistake. The two are different and in the case of Uber, we're talking about residency for tax purposes, not immigration purposes which of course a company cannot have. Ever heard of a company visiting argentina on holiday, LOL? Further, what tax are you referring to? Income tax? IVA? Export/Import duties/taxes?

Look into tax treaties Argentina has with many countries (these override local tax laws) and you'll understand that Uber falls into a grey area.

Uber provides a matching service and the service is purchased over the internet from a foreign company, similar to buying a product online from eBay or Amazon. Local drivers advertise their availability to carry passengers and people buy the service. Uber then pays the driver approximately 80% of the revenue billed. The driver fulfils a service, later declares income to AFIP and thereby tax is paid.100% of the amount billed the passenger leaves the country. 80% of the funds are then returned to the driver who is responsible for paying tax on money earned.

So it's simple, Uber pays tax on the profits from the 20% it retains in its country of tax residence (not argentina) and the driver pays tax on the profits from the 80% they're paid here in Argentina.

Yay, AFIP gets indirect tax revenue from Uber activities, fantastic. Uber just keeps getting better an better.

I hope this helps.

 

[thorsten]

Well, ask the chinese, they banned 98% of internetZ

That's my point. Either you have to intervene hardcore into the internet infrastructure, or it's basically useless. And even in the most censored countries, there are ways around blocking of content (though the inconvenience there would be too high for the typical app user).

 

[TrevorCito]

La Nacion reports that a prosecutor (fiscal) ordered phone companies and internet service providers to disable the Uber app while an investigation into Uber's taxi license (or lack thereof) is pending. Maybe it will take a while for the order to be fully implemented.

Uber isn't technically a taxi company. Do they actually own any cars? To be a taxi don't you first need to own a car that's actually a taxi?

Uber drivers are independent contractors, not employees so how can Uber be classified as a taxi?

If the government wants to block access to a range of internet addresses and ports they can easily do it but this level of censorship is a slippery slope. Does Argentina want to become like China?

Why doesn't the taxi industry expend the same amount of energy its using to attack Uber to improve their service so that companies like Uber don't have a chance? The truth is that they've spent years delivering poor service and have enjoyed to spoils taken from consumers who up until now haven't had the ability to choose. They don't like it when a new, younger, cheaper, more agile and more beautiful business takes the stage to provide the same service in a better way.

 

[TrevorCito]

I just took one from callao and las heras to river.

15 min ago

Damn, so it was you who took the only Uber service in town!!! Lol I've been trying for days but they're always busy even though i can see them whizzing around on the map

 

[el_expatriado]

Uber isn't technically a taxi company. Do they actually own any cars? To be a taxi don't you first need to own a car that's actually a taxi?

Uber drivers are independent contractors, not employees so how can Uber be classified as a taxi?

Under Argentine law taxi/remise drivers can only be independent contractors (monotributista) when they own and operate a car that has been properly licensed and inspected and have a professional driver's license and commercial passenger insurance. It is a public safety issue.

If they don't have their own car that meets the city's requirements, then they must enroll as an employee at a taxi or remise company and use a vehicle provided by one of these companies. As an employee they receive the social security and healthcare benefits that the law indicates.

Uber can't play both games. If it wants to let anyone in the city drive, it needs to buy and operate a fleet of cars and enroll them as employees. If it wants people to drive their own cars, then it needs to enroll as a remise company and hire only professional drivers with commercial insurance. You can't just have random people pick you up who have had no background check whatsoever and no insurance. It is a danger to public safety.

Saludos.

 

[RodalfoWalsh]

Can you hitchhike. Or is that a danger to public saftey as well? Or is it just a danger to your saftey? Until you can show me some real conclusive evidence about the public saftey issue, I'm calling bs.

 

[camberiu]

Under Argentine law taxi/remise drivers can only be independent contractors (monotributista) when they own and operate a car that has been properly licensed and inspected and have a professional driver's license and commercial passenger insurance. It is a public safety issue.

No, that is the excuse under the guise of "public safety issue"

You can't just have random people pick you up who have had no background check whatsoever and no insurance. It is a danger to public safety.

Because certified cab drivers in Buenos Aires are known to be safe, honest and reliable, thanks to those "extensive background checks" and legal hoops in place to enter the profession. it just happens that consumers have a death wish, and that is why, given the choice, they will pick Uber over traditional cab drivers almost every single time.

The "safety" issue is one of the oldest cons in place to protect certain trades and guilds from competition.