Venezuela: Mandatory Fingerprinting At Grocery Stores

[Napoleon]

What a brilliant idea. Cristina will have to implement this. Hopefully they will use the inkless system they have at Ezeiza. They used to use messy ink and then give you a cheap paper towel to wipe it off - but then ink might be in short supply nowadays.

I think that I was fingerprinted about 3 times here during my citizenship process and every time I rolled my hand in tar.

(Then again, I did it twice in the US to send in my FBI report... losing the first one.)

Fingerprinting is fun... and dirty... kind of like...

 

[LeoNubarron]

What do you feudsters think about fingerprinting at grocery stores?

This is what you get when you choose socialism. In Israel until the sixties you had to get food with ration cards. A lot of people in their seventies there are very short now. I can only imagine how miserable it was like under Red China or the USSR.
People who complain about capitalism are always from countries with capitalism that never imagined being hungry.

 

[Rich One]

This is what you get when you choose socialism. In Israel until the sixties you had to get food with ration cards. A lot of people in their seventies there are very short now. I can only imagine how miserable it was like under Red China or the USSR.
People who complain about capitalism are always from countries with capitalism that never imagined being hungry.

Not to mention ration cards in CUBA and Chile, close to home! Hasta la Victoria Siempre !

Ernesto Sabato the writer, was a youth communist leader trained at the Lenin Center in Moscu became disenchanted with Socialism, after the Stalin and Gulag Abuses. He said " While Capitalism has a number of Flaws , its the ONLY system where you can protest against the system"

 

[ajoknoblauch]

Not to mention ration cards in CUBA and Chile, close to home! Hasta la Victoria Siempre !

Ernesto Sabato the writer, was a youth communist leader trained at the Lenin Center in Moscu became disenchanted with Socialism, after the Stalin and Gulag Abuses. He said " While Capitalism has a number of Flaws , its the ONLY system where you can protest against the system"

In recent decades, Chile has had several Socialist presidents, and plenty of protests.

 

[EdRooney]

I've yet to find a capitalist country. The US certainly is not one, with its highly subsidised industrial, agricultural and financial sectors; its anti-free market copyright protections; and its giant corporations mooching off the nanny state. Europe is roughly in the same boat.

The closest thing I've ever seen to pure capitalism are places such as Guatemala and rural China, where the masses are fully exposed to the "free market" (even though the elites are shielded from it).

 

[Matiasba]

The 2/3 humanity under the poverty line is clearly a product of capitalism.

 

[Rich One]

I've yet to find a capitalist country. The US certainly is not one, with its highly subsidised industrial, agricultural and financial sectors; its anti-free market copyright protections; and its giant corporations mooching off the nanny state. Europe is roughly in the same boat.

The closest thing I've ever seen to pure capitalism are places such as Guatemala and rural China, where the masses are fully exposed to the "free market" (even though the elites are shielded from it).

You know better than that Ed , Pure capitalism as such doesn't exist, all are variants and new forms of capitalism represented in many areas of the world as China . Your statement Is only Part of the Socratic Dialectic questioning technique? Did Textbook Capitalism ever existed ? Better quote Capitalism of the XXI Centrury by T, Picketty

 

[camberiu]

The 2/3 humanity under the poverty line is clearly a product of capitalism.

You are right Matias. Before it was 3/3 of humanity under the poverty line.

http://youtu.be/jbkSRLYSojo

 

[Matiasba]

You are right Matias. Before it was 3/3 of humanity under the poverty line.

Nah, in the last 40 years a change of paradigma happened, the Neo Liberanism replaced the welfare state, and million and million of middle class people became poor. Lots of countries, especially in Latin America, started to have a 30% of its population under the poverty line. This decade that started to change due to neo keynesianism policies.

Capitalism is esencially inequality, nothing else, and it needs to work billion of people excluded. And of course, a couple of multimillionaire with zillions in the bank that could not spend it in three lives.

 

[EdRooney]

Have you read Picketty's book Rich? It's like 800 pages long, and I dont have that much time for the next 6 years or so.

I agree about your Socratic thinger... but y'all are the ones talking about capitalist or socialist countries, and those terms are utterly meaningless, especially since they get bandied about non-stop by potent propaganda systems in the US, Venezuela, Argentina and elsewhere, who thrash the definitions like redheaded stepchildren.

Instead let's use concrete examples:

More Capitalist:​

-- Peasants in Honduras, China, Haiti, Bangladesh, Malawi...​

More Socialist:​

-- Rich folks in US, Britain, Nigeria,Thailand...​

The takeaway is socialism is for the rich, and capitalism is for the poor, regardless of the country. Other than that, these blatherings about "socialist" USSR /Venezuela vs. the "capitalist" Western Europe/US, are just silly.