Welcome To The Dictatorship Of Happiness

[EJLarson]

You have been too long in this country, Pensador, you are getting to equate dialog with spewing ad hominems... get away from that path because what you say tells a lot more about you than impacts your interlocutor. Clean up your act.. one expects that lack of self respect and hate spewing from argents, but it would be a sad thing if their disease contaminates the expats. Of course, you could be a rabid republican in which case it is part of your Modus operandis.

You've not been following this forum for long, right? You might want to read a few dozen of Pensador's target, the good doctor Bajo_Cero, before such self-righteous moralizing. And if you consider ad hominems not to be in good form, how about equating those who are Republicans with diseased, hateful thinking? And is that ALL Argentines spewing hate? My, my, and here I thought I'd actually met some good people here.

You might want to try a quick glance in the mirror the next time you feel like finding someone to lecture on manners and morals.

 

[Rich One]

i've seen this rumour about the place but whats the evidence?
Don't get me wrong her views are vile as are her recent actions but i've yet to see anywhere outside Taringa style blogs saying they're alive and well.

If they are surely someone can head off over to Spain and interview them.

The Former husband Mr.. Bonafini declared the children are alive in Madrid, and ordered Hebe. de Bonafini to stop using the married name..!

http://www.alfinal.c...ctobonanini.php

Quote,,,,

.....Architect Bonafini, in the memorable interview with Bernardo Neustadt, in June 2002, had said:
"I wonder what my ex-wife says and do . Last night, I had dinner with my children Jorge and Raul in the" Posada de Juanillo ", here in Madrid, right in front of the home of actor Hector Alterio, who with his wife was located at a table in front of us. My ex-wife, married me hating my developmentalist ideology, everyone knows I admired Don Arturo Frondizi all my life, she made up disputes every day. When I got divorced, I forbade her the use of my name . I sincerely believe that hate made her mentally ill. She must do this for the children of other mothers. "

 

[scotttswan]

The Former husband Mr.. Bonafini declared the children are alive in Madrid, and ordered Hebe. de Bonafini to stop using the married name..!

http://www.alfinal.c...ctobonanini.php

Quote,,,,

.....Architect Bonafini, in the memorable interview with Bernardo Neustadt, in June 2002, had said:
"I wonder what my ex-wife says and do . Last night, I had dinner with my children Jorge and Raul in the" Posada de Juanillo ", here in Madrid, right in front of the home of actor Hector Alterio, who with his wife was located at a table in front of us. My ex-wife, married me hating my developmentalist ideology, everyone knows I admired Don Arturo Frondizi all my life, she made up disputes every day. When I got divorced, I forbade her the use of my name . I sincerely believe that hate made her mentally ill. She must do this for the children of other mothers. "

As i said before:

i've yet to see anywhere outside Taringa style blogs saying they're alive and well.

alfinal is the same site that has shit like this:
http://www.alfinal.com/Salud/lesbianatest.php

[background=rgb(252, 252, 252)]Bernardo Neustadt was a very famous journalist here (he also had a bad image for swapping between being a leftist, supporting the military dictatorship, supporting Menem etc etc), where is this interview? Who was it for? TV? a Newspaper?[/background]

[background=rgb(252, 252, 252)]If its so memorable why can't i find it anywhere. The internet was around in 2002, there's lots of articles talking about [/background][background=rgb(252, 252, 252)]Neustadt, [/background]Bonafini etc etc. none of them talk about her sons living in Spain.

I'd also like to know how [background=rgb(252, 252, 252)]Bernardo Neustadt interviewed [/background][background=rgb(201, 215, 241)]Humberto Alfredo Bonafini when he died in 1982 [/background]
https://books.google.com.ar/books?id=a7TY2ElIcrUC&pg=PA50&hl=en#v=onepage&q&f=false

 

[EdRooney]

alfinal is the same site that has shit like this:
http://www.alfinal.c...esbianatest.php

I scored an 89.

 

[Pensador]

You have been too long in this country, Pensador, you are getting to equate dialog with spewing ad hominems... get away from that path because what you say tells a lot more about you than impacts your interlocutor. Clean up your act.. one expects that lack of self respect and hate spewing from argents, but it would be a sad thing if their disease contaminates the expats. Of course, you could be a rabid republican in which case it is part of your Modus operandis.

If I offended you.. urr ummm is it possible your leap/best guess at understanding me caused you to be offended enough to just hurl away. Which means you lead yourself to such a response and post. My guess is you scanned my post and then just started a guessing game between your ears and then blurted your post out. I think it is best for tourist to refrain from assumptions that lead them to being offended. Just my 2 cents.

Let us evaluate your best guesses shall we?

1. I am not Argentina I left when they cut off the USD because I could see the writing on wall. But looking at moving back with my wife in about 6 months as she wants to go home.

2. Ad hominems - interesting terminology. The Doc is a Quack bottom line and I do not respect anything that supports or endorses what K and clan have brought about in Argentina in the last several years. And in reality the Quak Doc starting hurling the hate my way some time ago. Just for the record.

3. Rabid Republican - Well that could be taken as an insulted and clearly demonstrates your guessing game or assumptions could not be further from the truth. While I do hold some ideals embraced by republican thinking I surely to not agree with the vast majority of the thinking that is going on in the republican world at this time. I would have to be very dumb to do so. I could say the same for the democrats as well. Just the fact that current pole leader has gained so much popularity spewing out the level of fear, hate etc has amazed me and causes me to have great concern for my home land.

I could write more but we can just let this rest here. Thanks for sharing your insights even if they were completely off the mark. Enjoy Argentina!

 

[scotttswan]

I scored an 89.

But were you interviewed by [background=rgb(252, 252, 252)]Bernardo Neustadt about your results?[/background]

 

[EdRooney]

I have the interview scheduled for 20 yrs after my death.

 

[Rich One]

As i said before:

alfinal is the same site that has shit like this:
http://www.alfinal.c...esbianatest.php

[background=rgb(252, 252, 252)]Bernardo Neustadt was a very famous journalist here (he also had a bad image for swapping between being a leftist, supporting the military dictatorship, supporting Menem etc etc), where is this interview? Who was it for? TV? a Newspaper?[/background]

[background=rgb(252, 252, 252)]If its so memorable why can't i find it anywhere. The internet was around in 2002, there's lots of articles talking about [/background][background=rgb(252, 252, 252)]Neustadt, [/background]Bonafini etc etc. none of them talk about her sons living in Spain.

I'd also like to know how [background=rgb(252, 252, 252)]Bernardo Neustadt interviewed [/background][background=rgb(201, 215, 241)]Humberto Alfredo Bonafini when he died in 1982 [/background]
https://books.google...epage&q&f=false

The Lesbian Test in afinai is great.... I answered it and I gave positive.... jajajaj I guess then according to you all information on afinai is not VALID

Hebe claims her children are alive....? says Perfil a publication that prints a lot of shit....!!

http://www.perfil.com/ediciones/2012/2/edicion_648/contenidos/noticia_0033.html

Quote...

"I will never accept death or economic repair or exhumation of corpses. If I do not investigate, no one has authority to do so. My sons are alive, "Bonafini said in 2001 to La Nacion... .

 

[scotttswan]

The Lesbian Test in afinai is great.... I answered it and I gave positive.... jajajaj I guess then according to you all information on afinai is not VALID

Hebe claims her children are alive....? says Perfil a publication that prints a lot of shit....!!

http://www.perfil.co...ticia_0033.html

Quote...

"I will never accept death or economic repair or exhumation of corpses. If I do not investigate, no one has authority to do so. My sons are alive, "Bonafini said in 2001 to La Nacion... .

Yes the Mothers of Plaza De Mayo split into two groups and Hebe's group pledged not to recognize the deaths of their children until the government would admit its fault. http://www.yachana.o...h/plazamayo.pdf

Also from that article.

Once días después, otro documento asegura: “Los datos del delincuente muerto son los siguientes: Raúl Alfredo Bonafini (sic), hijo de Humberto Alfredo y Hebe María Pastor, nació el 3 de Julio de 1953 en la localidad de La Plata.
Las causas que motivaron la muerte del mencionado delincuente fueron autoeliminación, ingirió pastillas de cianuro....

....Pero Gioglio contó a este medio que “si la mamá se opone y no da muestras, no podemos hacer nada porque el padre falleció y el otro hermano está desaparecido.

She's not literally saying my sons are alive and well and living in Spain with their father.......

afinai is basically a proto taringa where people dump all sorts of random crap. Doesn't make it correct.

Where is this famous interview? Did Hebe's husband not die in 1982? When did he die? Why is [background=rgb(252, 252, 252)]Perfil saying he's dead? etc etc....[/background]

 

[Rich One]

Your position is very clear the Children are alive.... ! I read the sources implying she is hiding the truth . Since I dislike her so much I like to believe the latter..... Here is why i DISLIKE HER...

The most memorable phrase of Bonafini is linked to the attack on the Twin Towers in New York. In 2001, days after the attack that the world mourned, Bonafini said that when he learned of what happened felt "joy".

"I was with my daughter in Cuba and I was glad when I heard the news. I will not be hypocritical it with this topic: it did not hurt at all the attack, "he said.

The head of Mothers of the Plaza de Mayo also had unfortunate quotations against the Supreme Court of Justice of the Nation, journalists and even against former President Raul Alfonsin, on the very day of his death.

Bonafini, in sentences

Alfonsin's wake: "It was a mobilization of the upper and middle classes, who always come to these things. From my place, I make the biggest repudiation for all the hypocrites who were clapping. "

Julio Cobos: ". Is building a parallel government and that is being a son of a thousand bitches, Someone has to get him out of the house right now Rosada.No no other, we have to finish this."

The opening of the Museum of Memory. "What a pity they are no FAL rifles, the weapons with which our children wanted to make the revolution If the museum is not going to show how it was that revolutionary organization, the struggles that ensued, facts they were made, no good. "

Susana Gimenez and the death penalty: "What is our assurance that these vedettes vedettes are whores, who dare to speak of human rights when they danced and slept with all the oppressors?"

The opposition majority in Congress: "Parliament is worthless, every day doing against us."

On the Colombian narco-guerrilla "We are with fellow FARC, we are with Chavez we are with our president Nestor K. Uribe is shit and son of a bitch.".

The journalist Horacio Verbitsky and the Jewish community: "It is a servant of the United States. Besides being Jewish, it is entirely pro-American ".

Farmers Protest against the Retenciones: "Another government would have chased them out with clubs and gases, as they deserved."

A message to the Supreme Court: "They are crooks accomplices of the dictatorship. They have to resign and have to go if they don't want to help people. You have to remove this Court's decision, decision is ours, Let's tear it off their hands and if we have to take over the Justice Ministry, let's take it over ".

English royalty, "If we chased them out once with boiling oil,lets begin to heat the oil. That old (Queen) lives in her castle; Well, she can stick it up her arse . I do not give a dam for the Queen's Castle ".

The Bolivian community: "Get out of our Plaza, Bolivians/Bolitas son of bitches, fucking Bolivians Go away!".