What Is Peronism?

[Matiasba]

In other words it is a political label devoid of any consistent ideological basis other than some sort of Machiavellianism; striving only for power and self preservation it is realpolitik incarnate.

it is sooooo including peronismo!! but its not true that lacks of ideological basis. If you wanna know really what peronismo is, you just have to apply Laclau's theory, and think it is defined by what its not peronismo. In other words, peronismo is defined by anti peronismo, by everything agaisnt peronismo, by the oposite field, their ideologies, their policies, etc.
You will know peronismo by knowing what is not peronismo.

 

[London2Baires]

it is sooooo including peronismo!! but its not true that lacks of ideological basis. If you wanna know really what peronismo is, you just have to apply Laclau's theory, and think it is defined by what its not peronismo. In other words, peronismo is defined by anti peronismo, by everything agaisnt peronismo, by the oposite field, their ideologies, their policies, etc.
You will know peronismo by knowing what is not peronismo.

I will quote myself from the Laclau thread from earlier in the year. Not sure why I wasted so many hours understanding his theory, but remember feeling it produced far more heat than light, somewhat like peronism, so you may be right ! Though I would add that Laclau's 'work' seems to have been used by the current K incarnation of Peronism as a way of justifying their populist leanings. I feel that you probably couldn't make the historical forms of Peronism backwards compatible with this type of theory.

Hi All!

One of my particular interests and specialisations happens to be the political sciences. I was therefore somewhat surprised to recently see several national newspaper articles on this supposedly world famous Laclau. I personally had never come across his work and so decided to do a little digging a few days ago. As far as I understand it he tries to fix certain deficiencies within classical Marxist theory by attempting to incorporate certain post-modern 'methodologies' (drawing heavily from Derrida) as well as taking other 'insights' from the psychoanalytical tradition of Lacan and to a lesser degree relying also on Saussure, Barthes and Gramsci's work (and to an ever lesser degree Kant's).

The resulting theoretical model of 'Discourse Analysis' attempts to go beyond a flawed Marxist class antagonism based paradigm and tries to set up a new antagonism between a 'dominant' neo-liberalism discourse on the one hand and a deconstructed populism discourse as its countervailing pole on the other.

Personally I am not convinced either by the theoretical underpinning of Discourse Analysis or by Laclau's conclusions and related praxis.

For those of you who are interested but who also have some previous understanding of the field (and a fair bit of patience!) you can watch the youtube video of Laclau's key note address at a University Of Brighton Conference on youtube (its 1 hour long, good luck!). Also for anyone who managed to watch the youtube you may also want to read the brief written critique on Discourse Analysis Theory [both links below]

Cheers!


Links:

Thinking The Political : The Work of Ernesto Laclau - University Of Brighton
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https://www.youtube....h?v=KqzN7cLPW2c


A Brief Critique of Discourse Analysis:

http://struggleswith...ourse-analysis/

 

[ajoknoblauch]

it is sooooo including peronismo!! but its not true that lacks of ideological basis. If you wanna know really what peronismo is, you just have to apply Laclau's theory, and think it is defined by what its not peronismo. In other words, peronismo is defined by anti peronismo, by everything agaisnt peronismo, by the oposite field, their ideologies, their policies, etc.
You will know peronismo by knowing what is not peronismo.

Peronism, then, is reactionary incoherence.

 

[pauper]

The answer may be somewhere in here:
http://baexpats.org/topic/28141-very-good-article-democracy-peronism-for-beginners/

if not it's surely somewhere amongst the 390 odd posts of the worst pizza in the world thread

 

[London2Baires]

The answer may be somewhere in here:
http://baexpats.org/...-for-beginners/

if not it's surely somewhere amongst the 390 odd posts of the worst pizza in the world thread

Oow nice thread!, Though the original article is unavailable so I can only read the comments

Will start working on the Pizza one after that, i like a challenge!!

 

[pauper]

Oow nice thread!, Though the original article is unavailable so I can only read the comments

Will start working on the Pizza one after that, i like a challenge!!

The pizza thread just keeps giving and giving:
Pizza or Politics?
"The secret is in the base and the quality of the ingredients"
"You can not compare American style and Argentine style"
"It's a matter of adjusting your expectations"
"there is something just WRONG in the mixture"

Question: Is the problem of Peronismo rooted in the lack of availability of pepperoni in Argentina?

 

[London2Baires]

The pizza thread just keeps giving and giving:
Pizza or Politics?
"The secret is in the base and the quality of the ingredients"
"You can not compare American style and Argentine style"
"It's a matter of adjusting your expectations"
"there is something just WRONG in the mixture"

Question: Is the problem of Peronismo rooted in the lack of availability of pepperoni in Argentina?

Yes!! That's it, its THE ANSWER!!!

It seems so obvious now in retrospect.

Peperoni Nacional y Popular Para Todos!!!!!

 

[pauper]

Oow nice thread!, Though the original article is unavailable so I can only read the comments

try here:
http://bubblear.com/...ronist-economy/
rebuttal here:
http://bubblear.com/...-and-democracy/

interested to hear your thoughts.

 

[Joe]

Yes!! That's it, its THE ANSWER!!!

It seems so obvious now in retrospect.

Peperoni Nacional y Popular Para Todos!!!!!

So you're saying Peronism is the "Nac y Pop" of politics?

 

[pauper]

So you're saying Peronism is the "Nac y Pop" of politics?

'Nac & Pop' is the Peronismo of fast food.