Who Will Be Elected President In 2015?

[French jurist]

CIA agents are infiltrated too.

I uncovered one : http://facebook.com/profile.php?=16587552

 

[snowboarder]

Frenchie: They only watch buddy! Not write neopopulist pseudo facist/stalinist crap for their kleptocratic overlords.

 

[Bajo_cero2]

Sorry Dublin2, it is just history and to be well informed. The last year I was reading a lot about AR history of the last 70 years trying to understand better this country.
You can read the links I posted in wikipedia.
Instead of insulting people I explained why the assert was not accurate (Peron doom the industry or something alike). Perhaps he doomed this country, but this is another debate that can only happens if you have a basic knowledge of facts and some ideas inside your head.

The peronismo (of any kind) never wins at the Law University. And it is better this way.

This is my hobbie Joe. And I just point facts and my point of view.

 

[Dublin2BuenosAires]

Sorry Dublin2, it is just history and to be well informed. The last year I was reading a lot about AR history of the last 70 years trying to understand better this country.
You can read the links I posted in wikipedia.
Instead of insulting people I explained why the assert was not accurate (Peron doom the industry or something alike). Perhaps he doomed this country, but this is another debate that can only happens if you have a basic knowledge of facts and some ideas inside your head.

The peronismo (of any kind) never wins at the Law University. And it is better this way.

This is my hobbie Joe. And I just point facts and my point of view.

Snowboarder, don t be pathetic. My way of living is well known and I have no master.
My problem or my virtue is that i don t accept that nobody tell me how to think, what to do or how to behave. I cannot be a clerk because i cannot have a boss.

That s why i do my own research, when i have time, to develope my own point of view.

That s how i developed, for example, a new procedure that allow to get citizenship easier. When i started, all the judges disagree with me And I really didn t care as I don t care you. That 's me.

I think we have been down this road before, more of a roundabout really. You will Carry on insinuating we arent informed and I will carry on pointing to the future etc etc. I will ask you some questions, you won't answer and so on then you have the nerve to come back talking about debate. You see, the first time you copy and pasted that story about Peron you were asked a lot of questions none of which you chose to answer. My crystal ball tells that is sort of how this conversation would pan out too.

Lets not bother, instead I think I will watch the pigeon's coming home to roost while you recycle propaganda.

 

[Bajo_cero2]

Lets not bother, instead I think I will watch the pigeon's coming home to roost while you recycle propaganda.

Propaganda?
I cannot do propaganda because i think that only an ignorant can assert that Peron doomed the industry while I think that Peron doomed this country because he tried to create a 2nd germany in south america.
Did you see the links? He built war jets, tanks, submarines, rockets. Atomic industry.
And i think that it was a huge stupidity because he got Argentina to be as isolated as north korea.
After the WWII the US was not going to allow another hitler in the backyard and Argentina since then began its decadency because there were many economical sanctions, many of them were secret but the files were open recently.
The Soviet Union and the US got the german tech and enginiers because they paid many million of lives for it while Peron got them for free. It just doesn t work like that.
And the biggest damage he made was to accept the coup without fighting because he had the army and the people on his side. I mean, it was going to be better that he falls by his own weight and not to exiliate like a hero and become a myth.
In that case he might negociate his quit but protecting what he did well but instead of that, a heteredox group (nazis included) coup him and they just vomit hate. So, they plan was to destroy his work, even good things like heavy industry.

During the 70' he promoted terrorist atacks to make the dictator fall and allow him to return. He opened the Pandora box and it was a disaster.
When he got the Presidency, the armed groups refused to give up the guns. Extreme right and left were "Peronistas" and tgey start killing each other looking to inherith Him.
So, instead of asserting lies, please read or get informed because there are really heavy critics to do to Peron.
Propaganda?

 

[camberiu]

After the WWII the US was not going to allow another hitler in the backyard and Argentina since then began its decadency because there were many economical sanctions, many of them were secret but the files were open recently.

exactly! The US, the world even, could not, would not, allow Argentina (under Peron) to reach its full potential. It was a threat to the world!!!!! Argentina (under Peron) had the potential to completely alter the balance of power in the world and had to be stopped. So sanctions were imposed. The Argentinian economy was sabotaged.
Imagine what Argentina (under Peron) could have been if it wasn't for the US and its fear of being dethroned by the master race of South America!!!!!!

 

[Bajo_cero2]

His plan was ridicoulous since the beggining. The fact that economical sanctions were enough to make Argentina fall proves it.

Look Brazil, they become the economy, i dont remember if 5 ir 8th without plans of world domination. They just work hard and they sent troops to the WWII for the ally while Peron was clearly on the german side.
So, megalomany plus stupidity.

 

[camberiu]

His plan was ridicoulous since the beggining. The fact that economical sanctions were enough to make Argentina fall proves it.

Sure. Mismanagement had nothing to do with it. The US simply conspired to keep Argentina down, since it was a treat.
But the little niggers in Brazil, they knew their place. They had no ambition, obeyed their master, posed no threat, and were allowed to grow their economy.

Sounds right to me.

 

[Matiasba]

After WWII the US exit being the kings of the world, they had beaten Japan and Germany at the same time, and unlike the rest of the world they were intact (no bombings).
So they were in a position where they could put economical sanctions, like not recieving a penny of Marshall plans, as well as they were the only who could reconstruct the world, especially because of the ghost of the communism in europe. They helped Europe, Japan, they wanted to remained capitalist because the communism was at that moment a probability, keep in mind the total destruction that capitalism had gave this people.
So those countries that didint colaborate or were in fact Hitler allies, for example Spain with Franco, were excluded from financial help. Later, the US mainteined Franco due internal reasons, like keep the left ("republicanos") controlled, repressed, prohibited.

So Argentina after WWII was excluded from global economy, mainly because of Peron and his liking of Hitler.
That was the begining of the decadence. Clearly.

 

[camberiu]

So Argentina after WWII was excluded from global economy, mainly because of Peron and his liking of Hitler.
That was the begining of the decadence. Clearly.

Clearly. It was the US boycott and the US boycott alone that brought Argentina down to the same level as its monkey neighbors. Makes perfect sense. How else could you explain how such a white, European and Aryan society could be left in dust by its brown and black neighbors? I mean, only an international conspiracy could explain the fact that even Paraguay won't accept Argentine pesos, or that Colombian universities outrank Argentine universities, or that Chile has a child mortality rate much lower than Argentina's. Such a white, European and Aryan population could not be inept, lazy and corrupt all by itself. Only an international conspiracy can explain the fall of Argentina.