Any comments on the thumbprint scan and photo taken at arrival?

[sesamosinsal]

I passed through EZE in the end of march and didnt have finger prints or photo taken, maybe its only for USA citizens, infact since i been coming here over the past 5 1/2 years never had it happen.

The new system took effect in late April of this year..

 

[nicoenarg]

Really? Them taking your thumb/finger prints and a picture at immigration makes you feel like a criminal?

What world have you been living in for the past 10-12 years?

This is the way it is. Bangkok airport has had it in place for the last three years that I've visited Thailand. Never made me feel like a criminal. It would have if I wanted to overstay my visa or was planning on giving them a slip. But other than that, I'm going to their country, they can institute whatever law they want to protect their citizens from outsiders. If I don't like it, I am sure they can arrange for me a flight that goes straight back (usually flights turn around in about an hour).

As much as I dislike most of what CFK and the idiots surrounding her do, I think this is necessary. This might be used for people who overstay their visas in the future (I doubt that will happen), and if that happens, then all I can say is "bad luck". But with the world the way it is these days, governments feel the need to protect their citizens (at least overtly). And along those lines, without giving thought to any other theories, I think the Argentine government is WAY within their rights to tell people wishing to enter the country THEY are responsible for keeping safe whatever the hell they want (whether they keep the country safe or not or whether they care about their populace is, of course, debatable but maybe in another thread).

I'm glad the US started with the security screening. Having been a flight attendant on a plane that had to taxi back to the gate with a suspected terrorist on board who could have "pulled the pin" any time he wanted (if he actually had a bomb on board), I wish for more and more security measures. Of course nothing on the level TSA is doing (searching little girls and nuns on wheel chairs is plain stupid and a waste of resources and time). And I'm also for profiling. It works very well at Ben Gurion. I'm sure it will work elsewhere too. But hey, that's just me!

 

[davonz]

Just curious, are you a U.S. citizen? Are you Argentine?
I was under the impression that U.S. citizens would not get the print & photo procedure when going to the U.S.
If you are Argentine, it might also make sense why you did not have this happen at EZE recently, thinking it's just for non-Argentines.

New Zealander...

Actually just remembered after reading a comment by nico, that i was photographed in Thailand in 2005. However when i went there in 2010 wasnt, but maybe because i went through the vip line with swiss flight crew or they had me on record from 2005...

 

[nicoenarg]

New Zealander...

Actually just remembered after reading a comment by nico, that i was photographed in Thailand in 2005. However when i went there in 2010 wasnt, but maybe because i went through the vip line with swiss flight crew or they had me on record from 2005...

Nice.

Whenever I've flown into Bangkok as a flight attendant, they've never taken my picture, just a signature. Its only as a passenger that they'd take your thumb (or finger?) print and a photo.

 

[Argento]

Really? Them taking your thumb/finger prints and a picture at immigration makes you feel like a criminal?

What world have you been living in for the past 10-12 years?

Yes, that's correct, just as I stated. We're not all the same as you know. It's ok for you and that's fine. Not prefered for me and that is fine as well.

Where have I been? Not really relevant. Was only asking what others think, and your input is appreciated. I see by your posting for example that there are many that are simply not bothered at all and actually prefer the processes. People vary by their preferences. You have yours, I have mine, simple as that. Should not cause intrigue.

 

[kurtdillard]

Nicely put Argento. I am definitely not in the "security at any cost camp" and I find it terribly frustrating and depressing that so many people willingly give up their civil liberties as soon as an authority figure claims that its necessary to protect against terrorism, drugs, child porn, or some other terrible thing. More often than not there is little or no impact on the criminal activity mentioned by said authority, the new measures are simply another way for the authorities to control the general population.

 

[surfing]

Really? Them taking your thumb/finger prints and a picture at immigration makes you feel like a criminal?

What world have you been living in for the past 10-12 years?

This is the way it is. Bangkok airport has had it in place for the last three years that I've visited Thailand. Never made me feel like a criminal. It would have if I wanted to overstay my visa or was planning on giving them a slip. But other than that, I'm going to their country, they can institute whatever law they want to protect their citizens from outsiders. If I don't like it, I am sure they can arrange for me a flight that goes straight back (usually flights turn around in about an hour).

As much as I dislike most of what CFK and the idiots surrounding her do, I think this is necessary. This might be used for people who overstay their visas in the future (I doubt that will happen), and if that happens, then all I can say is "bad luck". But with the world the way it is these days, governments feel the need to protect their citizens (at least overtly). And along those lines, without giving thought to any other theories, I think the Argentine government is WAY within their rights to tell people wishing to enter the country THEY are responsible for keeping safe whatever the hell they want (whether they keep the country safe or not or whether they care about their populace is, of course, debatable but maybe in another thread).

I'm glad the US started with the security screening. Having been a flight attendant on a plane that had to taxi back to the gate with a suspected terrorist on board who could have "pulled the pin" any time he wanted (if he actually had a bomb on board), I wish for more and more security measures. Of course nothing on the level TSA is doing (searching little girls and nuns on wheel chairs is plain stupid and a waste of resources and time). And I'm also for profiling. It works very well at Ben Gurion. I'm sure it will work elsewhere too. But hey, that's just me!

"I'm glad the US started with the security screening. Having been a flight attendant on a plane that had to taxi back to the gate with a suspected terrorist on board who could have "pulled the pin" any time he wanted (if he actually had a bomb on board), I wish for more and more security measures. Of course nothing on the level TSA is doing (searching little girls and nuns on wheel chairs is plain stupid and a waste of resources and time). "

So you are saying that you the support the way the U.S handles airline security but not the way the TSA handles it? Huh???

 

[Johnny]

Nicely put Argento. I am definitely not in the "security at any cost camp" and I find it terribly frustrating and depressing that so many people willingly give up their civil liberties as soon as an authority figure claims that its necessary to protect against terrorism, drugs, child porn, or some other terrible thing. More often than not there is little or no impact on the criminal activity mentioned by said authority, the new measures are simply another way for the authorities to control the general population.

Plus, the drones are coming !!! Can someone tell me if Huxley, Orwell or Bradbury envisioned those ? An obscure sci-fi guy ?

Give it ten years and some 1/2 pound mechanical marvel will be on your windowsill befuddled by your Kama Sutra positions.

 

[sleslie23]

Plus, the drones are coming !!! Can someone tell me if Huxley, Orwell or Bradbury envisioned those ? An obscure sci-fi guy ?

Give it ten years and some 1/2 pound mechanical marvel will be on your windowsill befuddled by your Kama Sutra positions.

I'm going to build a yoga bunker specifically to avoid this situation.

 

[nicoenarg]

"I'm glad the US started with the security screening. Having been a flight attendant on a plane that had to taxi back to the gate with a suspected terrorist on board who could have "pulled the pin" any time he wanted (if he actually had a bomb on board), I wish for more and more security measures. Of course nothing on the level TSA is doing (searching little girls and nuns on wheel chairs is plain stupid and a waste of resources and time). [/b]"

So you are saying that you the support the way the U.S handles airline security but not the way the TSA handles it? Huh???

Okay calm down on your keyboard a little maybe.

But no, I'm not saying, to use your words, "So you are saying that you the support the way the U.S handles airline security but not the way the TSA handles it". What I am saying is that the US went in the right direction, in my opinion. The way they handled the situation, via TSA, was idiotic, and I gave examples of that too. Plain and simple. No need to twist my words into something I didn't even write to begin with.

Secondly, what I do support is the way Israel both intoduced and handles security on a daily basis. Someone here said "these measures don't work". I can easily counter and say that they work very well at Ben Gurion. Profiling is the only way you can make your security better. Security screening of 3 year old girls, and 90 year old nuns on wheelchairs, like the TSA people do is simply moronic and not effective.

The comment above by someone (not you surfing, I think it was Kurt) about "civil liberties" was hilarious in the context of Argentine aurhorities introducing cameras and thumb/finger print machines. You can not demand rights in a country where you have no representation. Also, you are pretty liberated in your choice to refuse to comply with any requirements laid down by the immigration officials in Argentina and be on your way back.

Its not your right to visit Argentina on your terms. Either put up with it or visit another country. It might be worth more than visiting dear old corrupt Argentina anyway.

To Argento:

Fair enough.