Argentina Cancel Its Participation On The Cruzex (Again)

[Matiasba]

I think what Matias is trying to say is that if you were killed by the ERP or Montoneros you were killed but a little less dead?since apparently you had it coming.The desaparecidos count is 9800 plus not 30000 unless they count my dog that never came back home back in 81

It is not the same someone who was killed and buried, to his/her family that someone who was desaparecido, because his/her family didnt know where the body was, or if he/she still alive, or if they sent it to another country, etc, That is also some kind of torture. Theres a HUGE difference of a simply kill than a desaparecido.

Thats what Im saying.

 

[Matiasba]

So, the facts of their birth place them beyond all hope?

No, but the family where you were born is in fact some circunstance that determinates you in a lot of ways, in your actions, in your potential. If we have a huge field called the right, I know Macris son will be there as his father was, maybe a little less, maybe with some changes, but he just cant be left wing or radical. Same happens with Alfonsins son, 99% relates him with his dad, or another example, did you expect G.W. Bush be a democrat or a republican as his father? It is a huge condition.

 

[camberiu]

No, but the family where you were born is in fact some circunstance that determinates you in a lot of ways, in your actions, in your potential.

So, your fate is determined at birth. Your potential and character depends on which family you are born under.

Can it get any more medieval than this?

 

[Matiasba]

So, your fate is determined at birth. Your potential and character depends on which family you are born under.

Can it get any more medieval than this?

I didnt say is pre determinated, I said it is a big condition, it is a big influence. Then theres what every one can do, the potential of what every agent can do,if not change couldnt be possible, but surely Macri wont turn to socialist.

 

[Dublin2BuenosAires]

Hopefully not.

 

[EdRooney]

With every subsequent post Matías's foot gets more firmly lodged in his mouth.

Seriously Mati, quit while you're behind.

If the PRO were to somehow take power, there is little doubt that they would make every effort to restore the economic conditions that led Argentina into the worst economic crisis in its history. There is no need to blame their genetics or their relationships or whatever, you can see it just by the way they have pilfered the largest budget in CABA history. Or from the fact that they have financial criminals like Sturzenegger on their team who engineered the last pillaging.

There is never an excuse for anyone being killed by terrorism, be it by the state or by people trying to overthrow a dictatorship. Saying otherwise only spits on the human rights others died to defend.

 

[Matiasba]

There is never an excuse for anyone being killed by terrorism, be it by the state or by people trying to overthrow a dictatorship. Saying otherwise only spits on the human rights others died to defend.

I never said that, are you talking of me? I too repudiate terrorism, being from the state or Montoneros.

 

[nicoenarg]

Glad I bowed out of this death spiral of a "debate" early on. I have to say though that when I did that I had no idea we'd be talking about punishing children for their fathers' sins and, on another thread, cutting thieves' hands off ( ).

It might just be me but it seems like we all time traveled back to the dark ages overnight.

 

[Matiasba]

talking about punishing children for their fathers' sins and,

Please, show me when I said that.

 

[ajoknoblauch]

So, your fate is determined at birth. Your potential and character depends on which family you are born under.

Can it get any more medieval than this?

In fairness, Argentina resembles a medieval country in some ways, even if the lords don't quite own their serfs.