Argentina Cancel Its Participation On The Cruzex (Again)

You are still doing it !! "the sons of the people who supported Militars are now with Macri or like Macri"

It would be nice of you to judge people as individuals in their own right rather than by the actions of their fathers. Also, i know many friends who were formerly FpV voters, former UCR voters who now have voted PRO. You are smearing them with very unpleasant allegations by trying to insinuate that PRO supporters are golpistas.

It reflects badly on you.
 
Important & simbolic individuals just as 3 year-old cristina viola and 15 year old Paula lambruschini and her 80 y/o neighbor.

Again, the fact that they weren't killed by a formal armed force doesn't make them any more alive. They are just as dead as the first rest of the victims, just no repairing for their deaths
 
You are still doing it !! "the sons of the people who supported Militars are now with Macri or like Macri"

It would be nice of you to judge people as individuals in their own right rather than by the actions of their fathers. Also, i know many friends who were formerly FpV voters, former UCR voters who now have voted PRO. You are smearing them with very unpleasant allegations by trying to insinuate that PRO supporters are golpistas.

It reflects badly on you.

I should watch myself,I don't want my great grand kids to be punished for something I did
 
You are still doing it !! "the sons of the people who supported Militars are now with Macri or like Macri"

It would be nice of you to judge people as individuals in their own right rather than by the actions of their fathers. Also, i know many friends who were formerly FpV voters, former UCR voters who now have voted PRO. You are smearing them with very unpleasant allegations by trying to insinuate that PRO supporters are golpistas.

It reflects badly on you.

No, I wasnt!!

I was trying to expain why the government called them golpistas. Because their fathers supported the militars. And its not that their fathers are not in politics now. Society and its economics flows created this bunch of interests to give the militars life, a purpose, a motivation. This economic interests created the necesity of the militars. I am sure they are against the judgment on militars, their ideology is pro-dictadura. I know cause I worked for Macri. My boss was Maria Eugenia Vidal and I know how they think, the purposes they have.
 
Important & simbolic individuals just as 3 year-old cristina viola and 15 year old Paula lambruschini and her 80 y/o neighbor.

Again, the fact that they weren't killed by a formal armed force doesn't make them any more alive. They are just as dead as the first rest of the victims, just no repairing for their deaths

As I said, there were killed because they were accidently there, their objective was lambruschini, the militar, yes its wrong what they did, but they were symbolic those kills and accidental.

And its not that they are equally dead, they are desaparecidos, their bodies never been found, family couldnt bury them, so again, its not the same in one side than the other.
 
And again...now we're back to PRO are pro-military.

Sadly we can't seem to have a serious conversation about this so I'm out.

Please, stay.
I dont see your point.
You re saying that Macri isnt Macris father so hes different? you re saying that Macris supporters, the sons of the people who got benefits for unconstitutional dictatorships could not be jugded as if they were there? Theyre their sons, you know, they do think the same way, their relato of the past is the same of their fathers, thier ideology is the same of their fathers, they represent the same political and economic interests their fathers did. They go in the same direction!! It is the same people!! Its not like they have changed their political views!!

Please, explain me why Im wrong.
 
And again...now we're back to PRO are pro-military.

Sadly we can't seem to have a serious conversation about this so I'm out.

I am so out. I don't want to be accused of following my 3rd uncle beliefs just because someone "is sure" I think like him. Maybe this is why reconciliation hasn't been reached out just yet. As long as it only goes with me or against me, as long as some victims are more important that the other victims (aka simbolic death), or I have more deaths than you, any healthy exercise of discussion will be reduced to a futile argument full of Monto! Zurdo! Gorila! or Golpista!

So goodbye y'all and hello beautiful porteno spring afternoon!! :cool:
 
Ayayay...this really is the limit.

There are more people who support PRO than the small band of sons of the last dictatorship. I suspect you know this but it is the easiest, (i.e. laziest) way to smear PRO. As I have already mentioned I personally know many voters of other parties who now vote PRO because the see them as an option to counter law and order issues and support an international re-engagement with external investment partners.

Me, I am not sure, like all parties here talk is loud, symbolic gestures are big and bright but important things like manifestos and costed plans are non-existant. I prefer them to the Peronists because like the military they have played their part in strangling this country.

I judge people by their own actions, not by their families actions. I'll judge PRO by theirs. I can't quite get you to be honest it seems, you start out by saying PRO are not military then once a few awkward questions are out there we're back to smearing them as military. I can't follow. It's silly to suggest that they are somehow anti-democratic.

On a previous thread you seemed to suggest that only certain companies who have affiliations with PRO members should be banned and not every company active in that era. You're picking those to castigate and those to elevate without any fair and equal criteria.

You can't pick and chose who the victims are. The dead are dead, there no more dead or less dead, no more valid deaths, just deaths.

I'm afraid you aren't really interested in moving on progressively, just a victory parade for the current strain of peronism, it's limiting for you and for the country, it propogates and endless stream of cyclical boom and bust, both in terms of society and economics. Peronism can only artifically inflate then suffocate, the military have no place in govt, only standing outside on ceremonial guard.

This time I really am out because we're having a circular discussion here that has limited value.
 
Military exercises often compose of too much testosterone and become a world class "Dick Measuring Contest." Stay home and visit your favorite Telo with your sweetheart. AR's got their priorities right.
 
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