Argentine citizenship for foreigners?

[Bajo_cero2]

We went through 3 years of temp residency and then got perm residency and never spent more than 6 months/year here during any of those years.

Good for you.

http://baexpats.org/expat-life/1922...ina-now-required-temporary-visa-renewals.html

Regards

 

[steveinbsas]

We went through 3 years of temp residency and then got perm residency and never spent more than 6 months/year here during any of those years.

Congrats on your permanent residency!

I don't remember if youse guys ever posted about it.

Some of us are just lucky we did what we did when we did it and got what we got when we got it.

 

[2GuysInPM]

thx.. the process seems to be more streamlined now, but stricter. I'm glad we were able to get it when we did.

 

[steveinbsas]

Yo tambien!

Whew!

 

[Bajo_cero2]

Statistics:

After 12 months the statistics are the following:

• 97% of the reports granted even with new cases.
• 2 cases waiting for reports (there are legal debates because they are very complex cases).
• 44 revocatorias (revocatoria is an appeal before the same judge. It is unusual to win them but the advantaje is that you have a reply in 7 days).
• 42 revocatorias won.
• 13 appeals.
• 10 appeals won.
• 2 lost. 1 waiting for a desicion.
• 2 cases before Supreme Court (if SC doesn t open the cases, they aren t lost, it just mean that I use another way asking for sanctions for the judge straight at SC because he didn t grand the reports in 3 days).
• 7 deportation orders stopped because of the citizenship case.
• Delay to grand the reports with irregular immigration status: average nowadays is 1 month (it took between 3 up to 12 months with the first 10 cases).
• Average case timming: Between 7 up to 12 months.
• 4 cases ready for sentence (they are delayed because I am waiting for the FBI records that the clients have to give me)
• 7 cases are almost done with small issues (the police didn t go to check the address, the client is abroad and he didn t do the Spanish test, etc).
• 1 case is under study for sentence.
• 0 cases lost.

Clarification:

1) There were a lot of revocatorias and appeals until September 2011. After the 7th appeal was won, one of the prosecutors who was reluctant and many judges changed their mind because they understood that they risked being removed. It means that they continue enforcing the restrictive thesis (the abolished law: permanent legal resident, legal work, etc) to all the cases but they apply the valid law under my solicitude.

2) One of the cases at SC is from another jurisdiction.

3) The second case at SC is regarding a juridic legal mistake of the Chamber. The judge who rejected this case is retired now. I talked with the new judge and he agree with me, so, even if the case is not open by the SC, the reports are going to be granted.

4) The 4 ultra conservative/nationalist judges retired this year. They had the age to do it but they prefered to continue working. However, they couldn't stand the new Chamber's precedents recognizing rights to foreigners under an irregular immigration status. So, they decided to retire because of that.

5) Another 2 ultra conservative judges just changed their behaviour because I asked for sanctions at the chamber.


Regards

 

[Bajo_cero2]

Today I learned that Argentina is not "standard." My attorney tells me I was eligible in 2009. You are eligible after two years of residency. He did tell me some people want to apply when they have been illegal in the country for two years and that's on the difficult side. He did not say impossible and I didn't pin him down since I have been strictly legal.

Well, the one million dollar question is: why other lawyers doesn t want to offer you to go straight for citizenship?

1) If you follow the procedure of the abolished law you pay fees 4 times;

2) Its a lot of work for the attorney to go straight for citizenship. It is the difficult side for the lawyer but the easy side for the client. If your money is worth, do it worth!.

The facts are that you were eligible with only 1 year in Argentina, without legal residency , even if you work under the table, even if you have criminal records under certain circunstances (there are many actions that are illegal in other countries but legal in Argentina; having argentine family is an exception, cold cases are not an issue (5 years old rule), among other exceptions).

Regards

 

[Lucas]

We went through 3 years of temp residency and then got perm residency and never spent more than 6 months/year here during any of those years.

Congrats on your permanent residency!

I don't remember if youse guys ever posted about it.

Is nothing to be proud of showing off....

 

[steveinbsas]

Is nothing to be proud of showing off....

I don't think the 2guysinPm are showing off. They are sharing information. If I remember corrrectly they started the thread "no more permanent residency" and that made me worried about being able to stay in Argentina. That was when I still had the impression that two years of permanent residency were required to obtain citizenshp and before I started this thread. I was happy 2guys also posted that migraciones had started granting permanent residency about four months later...just in time for me to apply on my third renewal.

I posted about it when I received permanent residency. I don't think I was bragging. I wanted others to know it was still possible, though it may actually be more difficult for some expats now. The income requirement for the visa rentista has more than doubled and now six months presence in country each year is required for the renewals. Nonetheless, Argentina remains one of the most immigrant freindly countries in the worldand might actually be numero uno.

 

[Lucas]

His permanent residency status I mean.....

Anyway, enjoy what is left guys/gals

HAPPY NEW YEAR!!! to all

Less than one year to go until doomsday

 

[Fettucini]

Hi, does anyone know what the deal is with income tax if you're on year one of a temporary residency visa (ie rentista visa)? Do you have to pay income tax on the money coming into the country from you're foreign income source? and if so is it enforced?