Argentine citizenship for foreigners?

[Ceviche]

Thanks Mr Bajo.

I am intrigued with Mr Lin's case, who does not speak Spanish.

So the judges agreed to grant him citizenship without a language test, using a translator only?

 

[el_expatriado]

So tomorrow I have to go take my Spanish test at the juzgado. Hopefully with this my process for citizenship will be coming to an end. I started in 2006 doing it on my own. Since last year I have a lawyer helping and now everything is going so much faster.

I'll let you all know how it goes and what they made me do.

 

[Bajo_cero2]

Thanks Mr Bajo.

I am intrigued with Mr Lin's case, who does not speak Spanish.

So the judges agreed to grant him citizenship without a language test, using a translator only?

There was a hearing with the judge, the prosecutor, the translator, Lin and Me after 6 months of legal debate regarding the languaje requirement (He was dismissed in the language test).

Lin was able so said some isolated words without any sentence like "Lavanderia", "6 años", "aca trabajo" but the questions were done in Chinese.

The fact is that he spoke in Chinese and we used the translator and the judge decided he speaks Spanish enough and, if the judge said so...

So, the point is that nobody want to assert that the sentence of the chamber is an stupidity, only the Superior of the chamber can say so. It is all about hierarchy.

Regards

 

[Ceviche]

Thanks for the update Mr Bajo.

Get it! It all depends from case to case and at whims and fancies of the respected judge.

"Knowing Spanish" also seems to be subjective basis your comment above. It could be very good knowledge of Spanish or just few words!

 

[Bajo_cero2]

Thanks for the update Mr Bajo.

Get it! It all depends from case to case and at whims and fancies of the respected judge.

"Knowing Spanish" also seems to be subjective basis your comment above. It could be very good knowledge of Spanish or just few words!

It depends on your attorney because judges always said no, until they said yes.

 

[el_expatriado]

I just finished the language test today. It was a joke. They made me transcribe Article 1 of the constitution and then read it aloud. They didn't ask me any questions about it at all or if I even understood what it meant. I only had to copy it and then read it aloud.

So, very easy.

 

[Ceviche]

It depends on your attorney because judges always said no, until they said yes.

Ahan! So if the attorney (for example - you) say "yes" to the judge, the judge will say "yes"?

What about opposition from public prosecuter (Government lawyer) ?

 

[Bajo_cero2]

Ahan! So if the attorney (for example - you) say "yes" to the judge, the judge will say "yes"?

What about opposition from public prosecuter (Government lawyer) ?

LOL

it is like at moovies, the prosecutor gives his opinion, i reply it and after that the judge decides. Usually it happens through a written prosedure but during hearings it is face to face and it might be yelling each other.
Your reputation, caracter and arguments weights a lot.
Regards

 

[Ceviche]

You said :-

"It depends on your attorney because judges always said no, until they said yes."

So who is the "attorney" here. Is it the lawyer representing the client or the lawyer representing the government?

So are you saying if the government attorney says "yes", then the judge says "yes"?

 

[Bajo_cero2]

I just finished the language test today. It was a joke. They made me transcribe Article 1 of the constitution and then read it aloud. They didn't ask me any questions about it at all or if I even understood what it meant. I only had to copy it and then read it aloud.

So, very easy.

they don t check the languaje, it is an euphemism for a check about if you know to read and write.
That s because the goal is to ban chinese.
Regards