Argentine re-immigration

[perry]

AGAIN, you are comparing EUROPE & SPAIN with Buenos Aires. These aren't even apples & oranges. It's like fish & oranges.....

You can buy more with your Euros than you can with your pesos. If I had to make a choice, I'd rather be in Spain with 633Euros than Buenos Aires with 3500peso. But luckily I don't have to make that choice.


& here we don't? What's your point?

My point is that others have stated that Argentina compares unfavorably with Europe and USA and I disagree . There are many countries that make up Europe and are not just Switzerland, France, Germany, and Sweden. Most of the other countries people live similar lives to Argentina if not even worse if you take in consideration the costs of indebteness of the population.

For your information the reason that people use credit cards for buying groceries at Coto, Disco, jumbo as you state is simple there are generous discounts for their use and interest free terms paid in Quotas. I do the same like everyone else to save monies when I shop in bulk. In Chinos very rarely anyone uses credit cards as there is no benefit simple......

 

[mini]

For your information the reason that people use credit cards for buying groceries at Coto, Disco, jumbo as you state is simple there are generous discounts for their use and interest free terms. I do the same like everyone else to save monies when I shop in bulk. In Chinos very rarely anyone uses credit cards as there is no benefit simple......

I'm not talking about credit cards, i'm talking about cuotas.

 

[mini]

My point is that others have stated that Argentina compares unfavorably with Europe and USA and I disagree . There are many countries that make up Europe and are not just Switzerland, France, Germany, and Sweden. Most of the other countries people live similar lives to Argentina if not even worse if you take in consideration the costs of indebteness of the population.

These discussions are silly. Argentina IS a third world country. It's all fine & good living an upper middle class life in Buenos Aires.

Sorry, my family comes from one of the poorest regions of one of the poorest countries in Europe. I still don't think it compares at all to being poor in Buenos Aires. Apples to oranges.

 

[perry]

These discussions are silly. Argentina IS a third world country. It's all fine & good living an upper middle class life in Buenos Aires.

Sorry, my family comes from one of the poorest regions of one of the poorest countries in Europe. I still don't think it compares at all to being poor in Buenos Aires. Apples to oranges.

I find it offensive that you call it a Third world country. Poverty does not equate to all of us and should not define our society and stamp it .

There is many features about our society that we should be proud of . Feeling inferior to Europe creates the angst prevalent in Buenos Aires society .

 

[mini]

I find it offensive that you call it a Third world country. Poverty does not equate to all of us and should not define our society and stamp it .

I'm sorry you feel offended. I didn't define the terms. Do you prefer developing nation?

There is many features about our society that we should be proud of . Feeling inferior to Europe creates the angst prevalent in Buenos Aires society.

I agree. Again, my point is the putting down Europe/US/Oz doesn't make your case stronger. As you are offended by the criticism of Argentina I image you understand people getting annoyed with the criticism of their country (or countries). Especially, if what is being said is not true or distorted.

 

[SaraSara]

I'm not talking about credit cards, i'm talking about cuotas.

The advantage of paying in "cuotas" is that, with our runaway inflation, the longer you delay payment the better off you are. The locals learned that a long time ago.

Speaking as a local, in my view Argentina is indeed a Third World country - but there's nothing wrong with that. I lived long enough in the First World to learn that there are many problems in those "advanced societies".

 

[mini]

The advantage of paying in "cuotas" is that, with our runaway inflation, the longer you delay payment the better off you are.

The locals learned that a long time ago.

Sure I get that. We even bought our TV & appliances in cuotas when we arrived here.

Just because some people take advantage of the high inflation to pay in cuotas when they have money in the bank, let's not pretend there aren't people living from pay day to pay day and need to pay in cuotas.

 

[ssr]

I find it offensive that you call it a Third world country. Poverty does not equate to all of us and should not define our society and stamp it .

There is many features about our society that we should be proud of . Feeling inferior to Europe creates the angst prevalent in Buenos Aires society .

Pericles, you sound like those folks who convert to a religion and then proceed to take it FAR more seriously than those who grew up with it. Okay, you love Argentina. You found the promised land, champ. Enjoy. But, man, what's with all the animosity towards the US and Europe and Australia and wherever else? It's getting a bit strange.

 

[perry]

Pericles, you sound like those folks who convert to a religion and then proceed to take it FAR more seriously than those who grew up with it. Okay, you love Argentina. You found the promised land, champ. Enjoy. But, man, what's with all the animosity towards the US and Europe and Australia and wherever else? It's getting a bit strange.

Yes I enjoy very much Argentina You no

 

[LAtoBA]

Pericles, you sound like those folks who convert to a religion and then proceed to take it FAR more seriously than those who grew up with it. Okay, you love Argentina. You found the promised land, champ. Enjoy. But, man, what's with all the animosity towards the US and Europe and Australia and wherever else? It's getting a bit strange.

A friend of mine traveled throughout Latin America last year and couldn't stop raving about how much more "enlightened" and superior those countries were to the US. Every time I pointed out to him that his "enlightened travels" would not have been possible without the employment benefits he was receiving, or without the opportunities the US had given his family as Somali immigrants, or that those very countries had racist pasts as well (issues they are only now starting to acknowledge) he relented somewhat.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that "romanticizing" a foreign country and the lambasting of their country of origin seems to be a common phenomenon with "priviliged" foreigners in a foreign land (Johnny Depp and his tirade against the US for instance). Yet those very same foreigners fail or refuse to realize that without their privileged citizenship and socioeconomic status, the glow of the city lights, the feel of the winter chill, and the taste of the food, would all take on a different meaning. Simply, the rules of socioeconomic class that are far less fluid in Latin America than in the US do not apply to us. They/we are "above the law"....and honestly, as advanced as Argentina is, thank god for that.

And this was not directed to Pericles, just thought ssr made an interesting point. Sorry for the tangent.