Citizenship

You can reduce your "income" by taking loans against revenue generating assets (like property).
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You could structure your investments to not generate income (no dividends).

When you need cash, take a loan against the investment.
 
As far as I know practically everything country in the world (aside from the tax free countries) have the same rule. If you live there "full time" you must pay taxes on world wide income.
Most foreigners living in Argentina with temporary residency "must pay taxes on worldwide income" only after a full year of temporary residency, but there is at least one exception that I know of: those who are here with a "student" visa, which can be renewed durng the citizenship process without creating tax residency here.

I think Bajo.Cero2 confirmed this just in the past few days in an answer to one of your posts.

He also provided a simple way to demonstrate to the court's satisfaction that you have a legal means of living in Argentina without trying to use income from a foreign bussiness to fulfill the requirement or, for that matter, having to claim that you were being supported by a working spouse, something which would obvioulsy be impossible for someone who doesn't believe in marriage.

If I was in Argentina with a student visa that I got primarily for the purpose of living here for two years with a DNI while I applied for citizenship (with no desire whatsoever to actually study), I would enroll as a monotributista with AFIP just long enought to create an acceptable paper trail that I was receiving income from teachng in Argentina.

I could easily teach English or guitar to enough locals to generate enough income to live on here. I woud never have to show the court any receipts for the WU transfers or claim my retirement income as the source. I know I could easily "find" enough students to "pay" a total of $20.000 pesos per month, even if they didn't have the money to pay me or want to learn English or how to play the guitar, and unlike a foreigner here on a student visa, they wouldn't even have to show up for class.

If I was going to execute this plan, I would enroll with AFIP as a monotribusta and pay the montly fee. I'm not sure if the IVA must be paid separately, but that is something that is probably included in what I would charge each student. I would start doing this as far in advance of actually applying for citizenship as necessary (based on how many months I would need to have been "teaching" and I would discontinue it as soon as possible.

Then, if I really didn't want to live or pay taxes on my world wide income in Argentina, I would leave the country as soon as became a citizen,unless I had a desire to stay longer and it did not establish my tax residency here, undoubtedly very pleased with myself for how well I gamed the system, 'cause all I ever wanted in the first place was the passport.

Anyone who can blow holes in this "strategy" is most welcome to do so. Fortunately, I will never have to try it myself.

PS: $20.000 ARS per month is enough to pay all of my utitities, insurance, property taxes, municipal fees, car expenses, as well as food and drinking water.
 
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OK, so in 2 weeks, the juzgada wants me to call them and discuss the status.

They sent this to the fiscal this week after saying they're all done on their end.

Not sure if good/bad sign.
yes that's normal. They send it to the fiscal for opinion. It takes about a week maybe 2, to get a response. Most times they have nothing to argue and just say they agree with giving you citizenship. In my came the fiscal's opinion was just one sentence " Yes I have no objections, give him the carta...." then the judge issued the sentence.
 
My spouse has a legit above board legal job here in Argentina and we used that for being able to show i support myself.

Argentine taxes on foreign income are oppressive. I would avoid exposing yourself to that.

Out of interest what did you have to show regarding your wife's salary? I think I'll do the same when I start the citizenship process instead of going through the hassle of trying to use my own income from abroad.
 
Most foreigners living in Argentina with temporary residency "must pay taxes on worldwide income" only after a full year of temporary residency, but there is at least one exception that I know of: those who are here with a "student" visa, which can be renewed durng the citizenship process without creating tax residency here.

I think Bajo.Cero2 confirmed this just in the past few days in an answer to one of your posts.

He also provided a simple way to demonstrate to the court's satisfaction that you have a legal means of living in Argentina without trying to use income from a foreign bussiness to fulfill the requirement or, for that matter, having to claim that you were being supported by a working spouse, something which would obvioulsy be impossible for someone who doesn't believe in marriage.

If I was in Argentina with a student visa that I got primarily for the purpose of living here for two years with a DNI while I applied for citizenship (with no desire whatsoever to actually study), I would enroll as a monotributista with AFIP just long enought to create an acceptable paper trail that I was receiving income from teachng in Argentina.

I could easily teach English or guitar to enough locals to generate enough income to live on here. I woud never have to show the court any receipts for the WU transfers or claim my retirement income as the source. I know I could easily "find" enough students to "pay" a total of $20.000 pesos per month, even if they didn't have the money to pay me or want to learn English or how to play the guitar, and unlike a foreigner here on a student visa, they wouldn't even have to show up for class.

If I was going to execute this plan, I would enroll with AFIP as a monotribusta and pay the montly fee. I'm not sure if the IVA must be paid separately, but that is something that is probably included in what I would charge each student. I would start doing this as far in advance of actually applying for citizenship as necessary (based on how many months I would need to have been "teaching" and I would discontinue it as soon as possible.

Then, if I really didn't want to live or pay taxes on my world wide income in Argentina, I would leave the country as soon as became a citizen,unless I had a desire to stay longer and it did not establish my tax residency here, undoubtedly very pleased with myself for how well I gamed the system, 'cause all I ever wanted in the first place was the passport.

Anyone who can blow holes in this "strategy" is most welcome to do so. Fortunately, I will never have to try it myself.

PS: $20.000 ARS per month is enough to pay all of my utitities, insurance, property taxes, municipal fees, car expenses, as well as food and drinking water.
You're putting thoughts in my head lol
 
Out of interest what did you have to show regarding your wife's salary? I think I'll do the same when I start the citizenship process instead of going through the hassle of trying to use my own income from abroad.
i just told them. i don't think they really looked too hard? I mean they check everything (afip/interpol/etc).

If your wife/husband has legal income (which isn't guaranteed in Argentina..) you should use that vs exposing your overseas assets/income to afip if they're not already exposed. The process to true that up is complicated.
 
i just told them. i don't think they really looked too hard? I mean they check everything (afip/interpol/etc).

If your wife/husband has legal income (which isn't guaranteed in Argentina..) you should use that vs exposing your overseas assets/income to afip if they're not already exposed. The process to true that up is complicated.
Cheers, my wife has legal income so looks like I'm going to be "officially" a house husband also :)
 
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