Expat Deported At Ezeiza

[DontMindMe]

Is this a joke or you are trying to rub it in somebody's face?

No, you misunderstood. My tone was that of exasperation for my own personal situation--this is the last time I'll be flying back to Argentina after a trip home, and now I have to worry about being deported when I didn't want to come back here to begin with. I would never joke about what happened to this guy. It's horrible. I'm preparing for the possibility that I'll be questioned, that's all. It seems that it's gotten to the point now where if those of us without residency have documents that we can present to help our case, we should probably take them with us to be on the safe side. If the crackdown is finally happening, it's best to be prepared.

 

[ArielFabian]

That sucks for him, especially since he was trying to get citizenship. I hope it all works out in the end.

I do not think it is going to be easy for him to return Argentina. He will need an excellent lawyer, patience, and good luck; Argentina let's almost anybody in, unless many things are wrong. Needless to say that there are many problems in this country, but almost anybody is allowed to stay here, it is a free country in this aspect. Once a deportation occurs it is difficult to struggle with the legal system bureaucracy.
Sorry for him, but it will be a headache for him if he wants to get back.

 

[Bajo_cero2]

I do not think it is going to be easy for him to return Argentina. He will need an excellent lawyer, patience, and good luck; Argentina let's almost anybody in, unless many things are wrong. Needless to say that there are many problems in this country, but almost anybody is allowed to stay here, it is a free country in this aspect. Once a deportation occurs it is difficult to struggle with the legal system bureaucracy.
Sorry for him, but it will be a headache for him if he wants to get back.

In fact, there is a yes or not in habeas corpus in a matter of hours. The same with the automatic appeal before the chamber of appeals. So, in máximum 3 days you are at Supreme Court .

The problem is that i could'nt find any judge today.

 

[French jurist]

While he is certainly knowledgeable about "immigration" matters, Dr. Ribliar specializes in Argentine citizenship for foreigners which is a matter for the federal courts,not Argentine Migraciones, which has no authority over citizenship.

I'm not a lawyer, but AFAIK, it's Federal Court which will decide about the validity of the DNM/administrative decision.

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My guess (to take with a pinch of salt) is that this unfortunate forum member will win the right to enter back in the country (illegal to have been denied to even try to defend him/herself). What's even more unfortunate is not having been able to stay for at least 24 hours detained. If he had stayed in Ezeiza (and not on Argentina's soil yet), reaching a solution would have been way quickier (no idea how long it can take now).

I have been, like many others, through the situation of being a permatourist (although my situation was specific) so for those who still are under this (non)status, it seems mandatory now to have some "magical solutions" ready if things go berzerk upon reentering Argentina.

One among likely a dozen (while doing things legally): for those who have an health issue (diabetes or whatever) & need specific medication = just come back with the minimum of those medications, making it impossible for the DNM to send you back by the same plane considering your health could be at risk (if the DNM sends you back in the plane anyway, inform the Captain and he'll refuse to take you on board likely).

Depending on each personal situation, out-of-the-box solutions can be found, but that needs a bit of anticipation & understanding what could impede the DNM from sending you back right away.

 

[ArielFabian]

In fact, there is a yes or not in habeas corpus in a matter of hours. The same with the automatic appeal before the chamber of appeals. So, in máximum 3 days you are at Supreme Court .

The problem is that i could'nt find any judge today.

Good luck, I hope this to be a "yes".

 

[ArielFabian]

I'm not a lawyer, but AFAIK, it's Federal Court which will decide about the validity of the DNM/administrative decision.

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My guess (to take with a pinch of salt) is that this unfortunate forum member will win the right to enter back in the country (illegal to have been denied to even try to defend him/herself). What's even more unfortunate is not having been able to stay for at least 24 hours detained. If he had stayed in Ezeiza (and not on Argentina's soil yet), reaching a solution would have been way quickier (no idea how long it can take now).

I have been, like many others, through the situation of being a permatourist (although my situation was specific) so for those who still are under this (non)status, it seems mandatory now to have some "magical solutions" ready if things go berzerk upon reentering Argentina.

One among likely a dozen (while doing things legally): for those who have an health issue (diabetes or whatever) & need specific medication = just come back with the minimum of those medications, making it impossible for the DNM to send you back by the same plane considering your health could be at risk (if the DNM sends you back in the plane anyway, inform the Captain and he'll refuse to take you on board likely).

Depending on each personal situation, out-of-the-box solutions can be found, but that needs a bit of anticipation & understanding what could impede the DNM from sending you back right away.

IMHO I believe any attempt of a magical solution might just en-worsen their situation and also can be risky for their health. Immigrant officers do not like being fooled in their job (I guess nobody likes). Default arrived or is around the corner (no big difference) and the restrictions will be increasing, no doubt. Any suspicious behavior might end up in a deportation in order to preserve the dollars in the country as much as possible.

 

[garryl]

I was detained by Brazil immigration last year, for a stupid reason. I was on my way to Argentina, with a cheap ticket from TAM, that was a mistake. Because the DC route was canceled by United. TAM was trying to get some business to collect the people from the United left overs. I had to hop from CA to DC, DC to Sao Paulo, Sao Pulo to Rio, and Rio to EZE.
I have lost my US passport after I got the entry fee stamp, the Argentina custom gave me a paper indicating that I have paid the entry fee. But every time when I enter Argentina, the immigration officer is clueless with my new passport that does not have a stamp, I have to get the supervisor out to explain every time.

Last year I was just about to board the Tam flight in Rio heading to EZE, the TAM Airline immigration idiot stopped me, he was looking for the stamp on my passport, which I did not have, I showed him that paper from Argentina immigration, which did not help. He called his manager, and explained, his manger only said " No". So I was stuck in Rio Airport, they were about to send me back to US, I threw my passport to the counter, and said to him " F**k you !". I insisted that they call Argentina immigration, it turns out there is a hotline between the Rio custom and EZE custom, miraculously, the Argentina side " yes", the TAM people put me back to the next flight, which is 10 hours later, I arrived in EZE at 3am with a big fever.I would be probably dead if I had to flight back to US with the same hops. From that time. NO TAM flight for me.

 

[Ceviche]

NO TAM flight for me.

TAM & LAN flying within South American routes are just horrible!

 

[dennisr]

Remember the "three strike" rule was kicked around awhile back, three overstays and you will be denied reentry. Also, is there not a difference in seriousness between being "denied entry" and " deportation"? A person can be denied entry for something as simple as not having the reciprocity receipt. Either way,, you are screwed, but seems it could carry some weight when trying to return.
Poor guy, feel for him.

 

[Somewhereinba]

many threads on here about becoming a citizen as a constitutional right. search anything by Bajo.

How many days in total did he spend in Argentina over what period?? Did he do border runs most of the time?? You said he overstayed, how many times?? There must be a reason they picked on him. Maybe Dennis is right about overstaying 3 times