Kirchner Rescued Argentinas Economy and help unite South America

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I know many here will not agree with this article but the Kirchner Legacy needs to be commended .

The sudden death of Néstor Kirchner today is a great loss not only to Argentina but to the region and the world. Kirchner took office as president in May 2003, when Argentina was in the initial stages of its recovery from a terrible recession. His role in rescuing Argentina's economy is comparable to that of Franklin D. Roosevelt in the Great Depression of the United States. Like Roosevelt, Kirchner had to stand up not only to powerful moneyed interests but also to most of the economics profession, which was insisting that his policies would lead to disaster. They proved wrong, and Kirchner was right.
Argentina's recession from 1998-2002 was indeed comparable to the U.S. Great Depression in terms of unemployment, which peaked at more than 21 percent, and lost output (about 20 percent of GDP). The majority of Argentines, who had until then enjoyed living standards among the highest in Latin America, were pushed below the poverty line. In December of 2002 and January 2003, the country underwent a massive devaluation, a world-historical record sovereign default on $95 billion of debt, and a collapse of the financial system.
Although some of the heterodox policies that ultimately ensured Argentina's rapid recovery were begun in the year before Kirchner took office, he had to follow them through some tough challenges to make Argentina the fastest growing economy in the region.
One big challenge came from the International Monetary Fund (IMF). The Fund had been instrumental in bringing about the collapse - by supporting, among other bad policies, an overvalued exchange rate with ever increasing indebtedness at rising interest rates. But when Argentina's economy inevitably collapsed the Fund offered no help, just a series of conditions that would impede the economy's recovery. The IMF was trying to get a better deal for the foreign creditor. Kirchner rightly refused the Fund's conditions, and the IMF refused to roll over Argentina's debt.
In September of 2003 the battle came to a head when Kirchner temporarily defaulted to the Fund rather than accept its conditions. It was an extraordinarily gutsy move - no middle income country had ever defaulted to the Fund, only a handful of failed or pariah states like Iraq or Congo. That's because the IMF was seen as having the power to cut off even trade credits to a country that defaulted to them. No one knew for sure what would happen. But the Fund backed down and rolled over the loans.
Argentina went on to grow at an average of more than 8 percent annually through 2008, pulling more than 11 million people in a country of 40 million out of poverty. The policies of the Kirchner government, including the Central Bank targeting of a stable and competitive real exchange rate, and taking a hard line against the defaulted creditors - were not popular in Washington or among the business press. But they worked.
Kirchner's successful face-off with the IMF came at a time when the Fund was rapidly losing influence in the world, after its failures in the Asian economic crisis that preceded Argentina's collapse. It showed the world that a country could defy the IMF and live to tell about it, and contributed to the ensuing loss of IMF influence in Latin America and middle-income countries generally. Since the IMF was at the time the most important avenue of Washington's influence in low-and-middle-income countries, this also contributed to the demise of United States influence, and especially in the recently-won independence of South America.
And Kirchner played a major role in consolidating this independence, working with the other left governments including Brazil, Venezuela, Ecuador, and Bolivia. Through institutions such as UNASUR (the Union of South American Nations), MERCOSUR (the South American trading bloc), and numerous commercial agreements, South America was able to dramatically alter its trajectory. They successfully backed Bolivia's government against an extra-parliamentary challenge from the right in 2008, and most recently stood behind Ecuador in that attempted coup there a few weeks ago. Unfortunately they did not succeed in overturning last year's military coup in Honduras, where U.S. backing of the coup government proved decisive. But Argentina, together with UNASUR, still refuses to allow Honduras back into the OAS, despite heavy lobbying from Washington.
Kirchner also earned respect from human rights organizations for his willingness to prosecute and extradite some of the military officers accused of crimes against humanity during the 1976-1983 dictatorship - reversing the policies of previous governments. Together with his wife, current president Cristina Fernández, Néstor Kirchner has made an enormous contribution in helping to move Argentina and the region in a progressive direction. Although these efforts have not generally won him much favor in Washington and in international business circles, history will record him not only as a great president but an independence hero of Latin America.
This column was published by The Guardian Unlimited (UK) on October 27, 2010.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mark-weisbrot/kirchner-rescued-argentin_b_774966.html
 
What have you been drinking? Kirchner was one of the worst Presidents ever, someone who got rich buying cheap state-owned land and selling it for fortunes, who used the presidential planes and helicopters for private trips, who isolated Argentina from the rest of the World, who condemned the dictators but forgot all about the terrorists of the 70's and recently granted asylum to a chilean assasin, who had bad relationships with Uruguay, Chile, the Vatican, Spain and possible Disney World, who was in the process of dismantling the institutions, the judicial system and who converted the Congress into a puppet theater, the one who made everything possible to destroy the country enterpreneurs and forced the Argentines to eat more vegetables by making cattle business unprofitable. The one who lost a HUGE favourable time of the World economy to turn Argentina into something different than the shadow it is now. The one who splashed millions for supporting the ever growing numbers of Madres de Plaza de Mazo (in spite the dictatorship finished some 30 years ago).The one responsible for the growing criminality.
The one who supported such 'figures' like D'Elia, Moyano, Milagros Sala and other criminals. The one who spends millions of Argentine tax money in mantaining an Army of parasites and FPV militants.
The one who left the energy supply in a sorry state.
I could write 1000's things more.
Are you sure you are talking about that Kirchner??????
 
For those who understand Spanish, here's an article about Nestor Kirchner written before he became "canonized" by death.

It's interesting because it explains how he was able to build a strong power base in such a short time.

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El gran temor de los Kirchner

Luis Majul
Para LA NACION
Miércoles 27 de octubre de 2010 | Publicado en edición impresa*


Un año antes de las elecciones para elegir el próximo presidente, Néstor Kirchner se enfrenta con el problema más grave de su larga vida política. Una complicación desconocida que no había tenido desde 1987, cuando inició su carrera como intendente de Río Gallegos.

El ex presidente se choca con la posibilidad cierta de perder los comicios y de ser investigado, condenado y detenido, acusado de delitos que van desde el enriquecimiento indebido hasta el haber ejercido la jefatura de una asociación ilícita. Se trata de un asunto que no fue todavía analizado con seriedad por su círculo íntimo porque nunca, hasta ahora, se había visto en la necesidad cierta de enfrentar el problema.

Kirchner pasó de intendente de Río Gallegos a gobernador de Santa Cruz en 1991. Fue reelegido en tres oportunidades, hasta 2003, año en que resultó elegido presidente de la Nación con el 22% de los votos, ante la deserción de Carlos Menem en segunda vuelta. Kirchner, mientras fue gobernador, fue acumulando cada vez más poder e implementó un sistema para garantizarse absoluta impunidad. Algunos ejemplos bastan para comprender cómo lo hizo.

Primero diseñó un sistema electoral que anuló a la oposición y transformó a la Legislatura de la provincia en una escribanía de la gobernación.

Después nominó un Tribunal Superior de Justicia a su medida y así evitó que investigaran su responsabilidad en escándalos de corrupción que hubieran servido para hacer caer a cualquier otro mandatario provincial. Otros dos ejemplos sirven para argumentar la afirmación: la liquidación del Banco de Santa Cruz con millones de pesos pasados a pérdida y el oscuro manejo de los fondos de las regalías petroleras que recibió la provincia.

Al mismo tiempo se aseguró, a través de la publicidad oficial y la persecución de periodistas, el acompañamiento de un sistema de medios que, salvo honrosas excepciones, no quiso o no pudo informar como se debe.

Es decir: con cada cambio de mandato logró que nadie cuestionara la legalidad de sus decisiones.

Pero ahora es distinto. "Ahora Kirchner no sabe cómo impedir que lo investiguen, lo juzguen y eventualmente lo condenen, porque jamás imaginó que se tendría que enfrentar a semejante situación", me explicó un importante ex ministro que se pasó buena parte de su gestión evitando firmar decretos y resoluciones que podrían colocarlo en el banquillo de los acusados en el futuro inmediato.

No sólo se fue asqueado por el sistema de toma de decisiones. "Kirchner decidía desde el precio del dólar hasta la ayuda monetaria a un concejal del conurbano", me dijo. También renunció alarmado por las infinidades de pequeñas y grandes oportunidades que existen en las secretarías, subsecretarías y direcciones para ganar dinero por izquierda sin que nadie se indigne demasiado. Desde el mecanismo de permisos de importaciones hasta los miles de subsidios que el Estado distribuye de manera discrecional y sin sentido común. ¿Cómo un hombre tan desconfiado y paranoico no se preparó como corresponde ante la alternativa de perder su libertad?

Una respuesta probable es que, hasta el conflicto con el campo y su brutal pelea con el Grupo Clarín, y en un exceso de confianza debido el continuo crecimiento de la economía y la parálisis de la oposición, Kirchner supuso que él y su esposa podrían gobernar durante varios períodos más sin el mínimo riesgo de ser investigados.

Otra respuesta posible es que el tiempo en el gobierno nacional no le alcanzó para modelar las instituciones a imagen y semejanza del experimento de Santa Cruz.
Los que fueron a ver a Kirchner a su oficina de Puerto Madero, en aquellos días de principios de 2008 en que "caminaba por las paredes" porque no encontraba su destino después de haber entregado la banda presidencial a su mujer, afirman que fue por esa época cuando se dio cuenta, por primera vez, de que corría peligro: "Ahora que estamos bien me voy a dedicar a juntar plata y acumular más poder. Es la única manera de impedir que vaya preso", me dijo un poderoso empresario de medios que le dijo Kirchner, una tarde en que lo visitó.

Después de las elecciones legislativas del 28 de junio de 2009, el ex presidente empezó a repetir, ante sus hombres de mayor confianza, que la culpa de la derrota no había sido del Frente para la Victoria ni de las candidaturas testimoniales, sino de los medios en general y de Clarín en particular. Y en un par de charlas íntimas le oyeron decir, de manera casi textual: "Si yo no lo meto preso antes, [Héctor] Magnetto me mete preso a mí".

Lo cierto es que su situación judicial futura podría distar de ser la ideal. En primer lugar, todavía hay abierta una causa por enriquecimiento ilícito que el juez Rodolfo Canicoba Corral podría desempolvar y reactivar. Abarca las declaraciones juradas del matrimonio de 2004 a 2007. Permanece archivada, a la espera de alguna novedad que amerite la continuidad de la investigación.

En segundo lugar, hay un grupo de peritos contables, abogados y ex fiscales que analiza la posibilidad de pedir la reapertura de la causa por enriquecimiento que cerró en tiempo récord Norberto Oyarbide. Lo pretenden hacer sobre la base de un polémico antecedente: el que ordenó que se volviera a abrir el juicio de la AMIA para investigar al juez Juan José Galeano.

En tercer lugar, está la megacausa que maneja Julián Ercolini y en la que al ex presidente se lo presenta como presunto jefe de una asociación ilícita junto con funcionarios de su confianza y una decena de empresarios que hicieron y siguen haciendo negocios con este gobierno. Este expediente contiene innumerables casos. Desde los oscuros negocios con Venezuela hasta el sobreprecio en las obras públicas a favor de un grupo de empresas "cartelizadas". A semejante panorama hay que sumarle la investigación sobre la mafia de los medicamentos y la oscura financiación de la campaña electoral de Cristina Presidente 2007. La semana pasada, en su primera declaración indagatoria, uno de los involucrados, Héctor Capaccioli, se encargó de dejar en claro, también ante Oyarbide, que su jefe político se llama Néstor Kirchner.

Las balas están picando demasiado cerca. "La manera más afectiva de meter preso a un presidente corrupto es investigarlo en serio cuando abandona el poder", me dijo un fiscal que lo denunció y que renunció a su cargo después de que le recortaran sus atribuciones.

© LA NACION
 
amargo said:
what have you been drinking? Kirchner was one of the worst presidents ever, someone who got rich buying cheap state-owned land and selling it for fortunes, who used the presidential planes and helicopters for private trips, who isolated argentina from the rest of the world, who condemned the dictators but forgot all about the terrorists of the 70's and recently granted asylum to a chilean assasin, who had bad relationships with uruguay, chile, the vatican, spain and possible disney world, who was in the process of dismantling the institutions, the judicial system and who converted the congress into a puppet theater, the one who made everything possible to destroy the country enterpreneurs and forced the argentines to eat more vegetables by making cattle business unprofitable. The one who lost a huge favourable time of the world economy to turn argentina into something different than the shadow it is now. The one who splashed millions for supporting the ever growing numbers of madres de plaza de mazo (in spite the dictatorship finished some 30 years ago).the one responsible for the growing criminality.
The one who supported such 'figures' like d'elia, moyano, milagros sala and other criminals. The one who spends millions of argentine tax money in mantaining an army of parasites and fpv militants.
The one who left the energy supply in a sorry state.
I could write 1000's things more.
Are you sure you are talking about that kirchner??????

Why are you directing that hysterical post at me I did not write the article Amargo . Did you read it in its entirety ?
WRITE TO MARK WESIBROT AND THE GUARDIAN IF YOU DO NOT AGREE AND ASK THEM TO CENSOR THEIR POSTS.
 
luis majul writes books that end up worthless within 6 months. The cartoñeros make good money from people throwing his writing away, and that's the best thing Majul has done for the poor. He has no backing to his suppositions and is not respected within any real intellectual circle. He is a celebrity journalist, and a poor one at that.
 
perry said:
Why are you directing that hysterical post at me I did not write the article Amargo . Did you read it in its entirety ?
WRITE TO MARK WESIBROT AND THE GUARDIAN IF YOU DO NOT AGREE AND ASK THEM TO CENSOR THEIR POSTS.

Of course Mark Wesibrot is a well know lefty, supporter of Hugo and other like regimes, not surprising that his view was positive. I'm sure we will be able to read many perhaps less biased and balanced accounts of Nestor's activities in coming days.
 
gouchobob said:
Of course Mark Wesibrot is a well know lefty, supporter of Hugo and other like regimes, not surprising that his view was positive. I'm sure we will be able to read many perhaps less biased and balanced accounts of Nestor's activities in coming days.


Of course your comments are from a well known righty a supporter of dictators and their like not suprising your view is negative about this article.

Im sure that you will post more biased articles in the coming days;)
 
thebookcellar said:
luis majul writes books that end up worthless within 6 months. The cartoñeros make good money from people throwing his writing away, and that's the best thing Majul has done for the poor. He has no backing to his suppositions and is not respected within any real intellectual circle. He is a celebrity journalist, and a poor one at that.

That's your own personal opinion and you have a right to it, no matter how wrong it can be.

By the way, it's cartoneros, not cartoñeros. Although perhaps that's the way it's spelled in " any real intellectual circle".
 
perry said:
And your comments are from a well known righty a supporter of dictators and their like not suprising your view is negative about this article.

Im sure that you will post more biased articles in the coming days;)

I read a good one in the Economist and the Miami Herald but I won't post them but others might.

Now I am a supporter of dictators? Don't now where you came up with this. I have always posted in favor of basic freedoms and rights of people. I have noticed when you don't have a good counter argument you quickly resort to insults and personal defamation's of me and other posters.
 
gouchobob said:
I read a good one in the Economist and the Miami Herald but I won't post them but others might.

Now I am a supporter of dictators? Don't now where you came up with this. I have always posted in favor of basic freedoms and rights of people. I have noticed when you don't have a good counter argument you quickly resort to insults and personal defamation's of me and other posters.

As if you have supported human rights and basic freedoms. By the way what are basic freedoms can you please clarify? There is no proof in your writings over the years that you support any of these freedom loving principles.

Your comments on this forum are the antithesis of democracy which is central to my core beliefs. Regarding personal defamations your comments since 2007 about the Kirchners and Argentina have been grossly defamatory and offensive to various posters on this forum .

The problem with you is that you are frustated that you have not converted more people to your anti-argentine agenda that has been your only decision to participate in this forum as you do not contribute nothing else that is valuable to the expat community of Buenos Aires .

Your personal attacks of me via the forum and privately for my beliefs political, personal and the like have shown clearly the dictator that you clearly are and wish Argentina to be ....
 
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