My Divorce From Argentina

[msan88]

I feel exactly THE SAME. Except it took me about... a month to figure it out lol! Taco bell, amazon.com, reliable internet... ill be back soon!

 

[nicoenarg]

Being married to an American and trying to get a tourist visa results in an immediate denial of the request. I went through this with my wife. She got multiple visas before we were married. After marriage, she had to wait for the spouse visa.

Did her financial situation change in any way? Did you guys get joint accounts etc? Also did her reason for visiting America differ from previous times?

Again, theoretically, it doesn't make a difference either positively or negatively whether one's married to an American. Not saying every single member of the embassy staff does their job 100% properly. Just saying that on paper, legally, rejection of visa based on the fact that someone is married to an American is outright ILLEGAL.

 

[nicoenarg]

I feel exactly THE SAME. Except it took me about... a month to figure it out lol! Taco bell, amazon.com, reliable internet... ill be back soon!

Huh?

Taco bell in Argentina? Where?

And again, if you think those three things will give you all the goodness of the West while being in Argentina then I hope, for your sake, you have a return ticket! If you're coming as a tourist, then its all a moot point.

 

[citygirl]

I think msan88 was responding to the original post saying those are the reasons that s/he will be returning to the US.

As far as the suggestion of starting a company to provide maid service - I would be able to answer as soon as pick myself up off the floor. I can think of no worse venture than that. So your business idea is based on having a large amount of employees who would be more than excited to sue you and having a company that would have to shoulder the legal responsibility in case said maid steals from the houses where he or she is working. How many lawsuits do you think you'll have to settle the first year?

As far as real estate - yes, that market is booming right now. And magazines in general are doing so well. Who exactly is going to pay to advertise in that do you think?

PS - I don't believe prenups have any validity in Argentina.

 

[nicoenarg]

I think msan88 was responding to the original post saying those are the reasons that s/he will be returning to the US.

As far as the suggestion of starting a company to provide maid service - I would be able to answer as soon as pick myself up off the floor. I can think of no worse venture than that. So your business idea is based on having a large amount of employees who would be more than excited to sue you and having a company that would have to shoulder the legal responsibility in case said maid steals from the houses where he or she is working. How many lawsuits do you think you'll have to settle the first year?

As far as real estate - yes, that market is booming right now. And magazines in general are doing so well. Who exactly is going to pay to advertise in that do you think?

PS - I don't believe prenups have any validity in Argentina.

Oh thanks. I completely misunderstood that post.

I think they recently changed the law on divorce and now they allow prenups for marriages taking place (within Argentina) after the law was passed. Again, I might be wrong.

 

[Lamb]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOv_-dRhuds

It just seemed fitting, and makes me laugh everytime.

 

[earlyretirement]

As far as the suggestion of starting a company to provide maid service - I would be able to answer as soon as pick myself up off the floor. I can think of no worse venture than that. So your business idea is based on having a large amount of employees who would be more than excited to sue you and having a company that would have to shoulder the legal responsibility in case said maid steals from the houses where he or she is working. How many lawsuits do you think you'll have to settle the first year?

As far as real estate - yes, that market is booming right now. And magazines in general are doing so well. Who exactly is going to pay to advertise in that do you think?

PS - I don't believe prenups have any validity in Argentina.

EXACTLY!! LOL. I really laughed when I read about someone thinking a temporary maid service would be a profitable venture. Most people don't want any strangers in their apartment. Especially these days when crime is worse than in past years.

Anyone that has lived in Argentina for any sort of time (several years) knows it's VERY difficult to find a trustworthy, hardworking and honest maid for the long-term. And NO, I'm not talking about a maid that will pretend to work hard the first few weeks then lazy out on you.

It's not too easy to trust maids to come in your house. The only people I've hired were maids that were referred to me by someone I personally know. In 8 years I had 2 maids. I had NO desire to have any strangers in my house.

Maids are also typically uneducated and will try to sue you if you fire them. I've always put my maids in white and even paid the legitimate taxes for them. I also paid them very well.

But in a temp agency type situation, there are a lot of potential problems including them potentially stealing from the people's places they are cleaning, turnover, undependable, potential lawsuits, etc. I can't see that as a good business.

And for people that didn't get citygirl's excellent sense of humor..... the real estate market is TOTALLY dead! No real sales volume. Sales have fallen off a cliff with all the restrictions by AFIP and probably will become worse with more restrictions probably in the pipeline.

Even tourism is on a decline with Brazil's economy having slowed down and not as much tourism from the USA and Europe.

I honestly can't think of any legitimate businesses operated totally in white that are too viable in Argentina right now. There may be a few but they are going to probably have higher risk. So it just becomes a risk/reward scenario.

Glossy magazines?? LOL. Magazine and newspapers are on a steady decline with all the electronic formats out there now (online, Ipad, etc).

As far as prenuptial agreements, they aren't valid in Argentina. The only assets that are protected are assets that you acquired before the wedding. For example, any real estate or land that you own before you get married, you can't lose in a divorce. But any real estate or assets you acquired during the marriage, your spouse will be entitled to.

They are very old school in Argentina. It's even hard to write your kids out of your last will and testament in Argentina. I've seen scenarios where a wealthy parent passed away and they didn't want to leave anything to their lazy no good kids but no way they could get written out.

 

[fifs2]

EXACTLY!! LOL. I really laughed when I read about someone thinking a temporary maid service would be a profitable venture. Most people don't want any strangers in their apartment. Especially these days when crime is worse than in past years.


Well as far back as 2010 I posted re agencies I had seen advertising for said service...never tried them or recommended them but still some people obviously saw an opening..I found 3 ads in the free magazine at the paediatricians..see this thread..no idea if theyre still in operation...

Need a cleaning lady please!

 

[earlyretirement]

Well as far back as 2010 I posted re agencies I had seen advertising for said service...never tried them or recommended them but still some people obviously saw an opening..I found 3 ads in the free magazine at the paediatricians..see this thread..no idea if theyre still in operation...

Need a cleaning lady please!

It doesn't matter if you see them advertised. Look at their profit and loss statement and I'd guess they aren't making any real money at all. I can also guarantee you they are most likely operating in black.

I think the point people are making is when you factor in running a legitimate business in white, pay your taxes, pay all legal employee benefits there aren't many businesses in Argentina that would be too successful.

Definitely I don't see temporary maid service as any business where there is any significant income.

 

[fifs2]

It doesn't matter if you see them advertised. Look at their profit and loss statement and I'd guess they aren't making any real money at all. I can also guarantee you they are most likely operating in black.

I think the point people are making is when you factor in running a legitimate business in white, pay your taxes, pay all legal employee benefits there aren't many businesses in Argentina that would be too successful.

Definitely I don't see temporary maid service as any business where there is any significant income.

I wasnt commenting on the business viability of it...just responding to the idea that it was an innovative business idea for an expat which clearly it isnt...Ive too much to think about re our own business here to worry about someone else bottom line thank you very much!