Politically Correctness And Racism In Argentina

There's a difference between ridiculous PC and common sense and restraint. I don't advocate artificial sugarcoating and lame language with no real meaning but I sure don't agree with saying whatever pops into your mind without considering other people and their feelings.
 
Would anyone here be offended -or considers that is not politically correct, to be called "gringo" or "yankee"?
 
Would anyone here be offended -or considers that is not politically correct, to be called "gringo" or "yankee"?


If it was being used despectively in order to articulate a negative assumption about me based solely on my country of origin, then yes I would.

Otherwise probably not.
 
Restraining yourself from saying racist or offensive things is not just about being PC. It's about being respectful, and realizing that those kinds of words are both powerful and wrong. It's easy on this forum to be a person of European heritage and complain about how annoying it is to be restrained in how you express yourself. Being called "gringo" or "yankee" is not the same as being called some of the truly offensive terms that people use to refer to people who are black, or from Bolivia, or whatever. It depends on whether the person using those words is someone with power, who is insulting someone as being lesser than they are.
I don't think the OP is being overly sensitive…I think she's sensitive to the fact that racist jokes actually aren't funny. Just slapping the label of "PC" on everything is an excuse to rely on outdated and pathetic stereotyping. It would be easy to brand all of us here as "typical expats," and yet we don't even have the same taste in pizza much less anything truly important (although pizza is pretty important).
 
I think Argentina is one of the most racist countries I've ever been to, and I say this not because of the
negrito or che negro comments, but because of the fact it is still okay to go on tv, be at a social event,
say on the subway/cafe/restaurant and basically say in English "The N****** and Indians from XYZ are
coming here and ruining the country/are motochorros."

Personal conversations using that language still disgust me, but the fact people can say it in the press
here is another thing.

Sorry Argies, it's not the hard working Bolivians ruining your wonderful white, European, first world country (sarcasm)
it's you guys and has been for the last 100 years.
Thank you for the truth.
 
There are very many good, tolerant people here.

But there are a very good many racist persons as well, at least in my experience.

I'm not talking at all about what I get here being a "yanqui" or a "gringo". Those terms are rarely used disparagingly against me, although sometimes they are, sure. But even when they are used disparagingly, there is still some respect behind the meaning - I'm not a subhuman in those cases, just a "capitalist pig" or the like. I'm actually OK with that, anyway. Heh.

I've posted about racism I've seen here at least a few times in this forum. I have a different perspective than many people here, having seen some real racism up close and personal directed at my family. People who wouldn't rent to us specifically because of my wife and her older sister being Paraguayan, attitudes of people like a certain portero who has heard my wife speak guarani to her friends (doesn't know her beyond perhaps a few exchanged words on occasion) and made some pretty disparaging remarks to my wife based on where she's from. Neighbors that made very racist comments about my family to their friends in front of their maids (yep, they didn't seem to "be there"), who were mostly Paraguayans and had made friends with my wife - comments that were repeated to my wife by her friends. My older sister-in-law's first real boyfriend's mother who refused to even meet her when they were dating, and then the same boyfriend who spewed all kinds of nasty racist remarks at her and the rest of us when she broke up with him because he couldn't pay his rent and asked her if he could move in with us for awhile (we had treated him like a part of the family, inviting him out to eat with us, inviting him to dinners at the table, etc. He got our numbers over a couple of months' time and after the break up was insufferably insane - as a side remark, it's been my experience that the boys here are every bit as hysterical in a relationship as I've seen guys on the forum complaining about women here). Both of my sisters-in-law having been called "paraguaya sucia" by classmates. When they were supposedly "going out" with a boy at school, the boy wouldn't be seen with them at rec or lunch, while all the other girls were with their boyfriends.

Very few Argentinos of this type of person like to even think about admitting they have "ni una sola gota de sangre india." They consider themselves European, and many are, but many are just as mixed as anyone else.

I dislike PC. I despise racism and elitism and prejudice. I'm guilty of all of that from time to time, being human, but I struggle as much as possible to not be that type of person. There should be some sort of balance between too PC and too permissive. I don't know where that line is. But here, it is 'way more tolerated than back where I come from because "people are free to speak their mind." Like I say, I don't know the answer, but I don't think it's here in the way people behave towards others in a goodly portion of what I've seen of Buenos Aires.

Then again, one of the things I like about Argentina is the very thing that allows such attitudes to exist - people letting people be, socially, for the most part. And I must say, I've never encountered violent racism, just "missed opportunities" racism, shall we say.
 
Whoa, that's brutal.

Well, it wasn't my intention to be brutal. I was, however, trying to put a bit of perspective on things.

I do want to make it clear, and maybe I wasn't - I'm not saying what I've experienced is the majority of Porteños.
 
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