Preparing to go to colonia for 7th time! Eek!!

[Bajo_cero2]

According to my lawyer in the USA whose wife is also a dual Argentine citizen, as long as i have viable business outside Argentina even if it is still in SA as a US citizen I can come and go as i please as long as my criminal record stays clean, and i have paid the reciprocity fee as many times as i need to in a calendar year, it is up to the re entry agent to stamp tourist 90 days on my passport, if they do not i can re enter but the last tourist 90 days stamp is still valid!!!

Interesting, some days a go a Migration agent said as his best argument that his mother, brother and uncle were lawyers. My answer was, well, you failed, you are the black sheep of the family, quit and go to university...

 

[Bajo_cero2]

Just thinking out loud... I guess I'm just wondering 'why now?'... First thing you learn in Argentina whether you are here 10 mins or 10 years is there is always an angle.

Do you read the newspapers?
Argentinians are being deported in Spain. There was a diplamatic mission today. About 2000 argentinians are in jeopardy of being deported because of the nazis policies of some states of the US. And guess what, do you know what reciprocity means? If this happens I can tell you that CFK will deport exactly the same quantity of people the day after.
Let`s see, US and Europe are in a big crisis with millions of people without work, about 4.000.000 only in Spain. We are growing at 10% per year, so, guess what, a lot of people is comming.
There wasn´t deportation law, now they have it, what a coincidence.

 

[Bajo_cero2]

Are there any risks associated with sailing out of Argentina on day 179 of your 180-day limit? I've never overstayed my 90-day visa (by either going home to the U.S. or to Colonia), but on my next date of departure, I will have been in Argentina for 185 days in one year. I plan to trim this down to 179 or so by traveling around Chile and Uruguay over the holidays, but just wondering if I could be in for any sort of spanking at Ezeiza when they see how close I am to the annual limit.

You just pay a fine. However, if you have been here over 24 non continious months you might apply for citizenship. Regards

 

[Bajo_cero2]

But I decided to come here after careful evaluation, thousands of dollars in legal advice and fees, from 2 different attorneys who have ties here in BA and good Government ties

Well, expending money is easy, you should spend it in some channel bags for your wife instead of wasting time and money in those lawyers because you have no idea about immigration law, you have no DNI, etc, etc.

 

[Bajo_cero2]

I believe that the main issue with the new decreto is that it gives too much power to DGM and inspectors. In this country it means corruption. DGM was corrupted enough before this decreto.
So, the main risk about doing la Gran Colonia is that they will beging to be nasty only to be bribed. This is exactly whay happends at DGM nowadays.

 

[steveinbsas]

Are there any risks associated with sailing out of Argentina on day 179 of your 180-day limit? I've never overstayed my 90-day visa (by either going home to the U.S. or to Colonia), but on my next date of departure, I will have been in Argentina for 185 days in one year. I plan to trim this down to 179 or so by traveling around Chile and Uruguay over the holidays, but just wondering if I could be in for any sort of spanking at Ezeiza when they see how close I am to the annual limit.

I don't think you have anything to worry about. You shouldn't have to pay anything. As far as I know, the "annual limit" of 180 days isn't really being enforced (not yet and certainly not at EZE) and you are non reentering immediately.

 

[steveinbsas]

About 2000 argentinians are in jeopardy of being deported because of the nazis policies of some states of the US.

The states aren't doing this. States do not have the power to deport anyone. It's the federal immigration service.

Please be more selective when you use the word Nazi. Yes, there are thousands of "illegals" (many who are incarcerated) who are in jeopardy of being deported, but there aren't any labor camps or gas chambers waiting for them.

There's a wonderful movie (The Visitor) about illegal immigrants living in the USA. It has some great scenes of the interior of a "holding facility" and the scene between the main character (the college professor) and an immigration official is haunting but not daunting.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0857191/

 

[SaraSara]

Do you read the newspapers?
About 2000 argentinians are in jeopardy of being deported because of the nazis policies of some states of the US.

The much-publicized "nazi policies" of some US states are nothing more than asking workers to show their green cards. Just like being asked to show your driver's license at a routine traffic check.

Those 2000 argentinians are illegal aliens who jumped their tourist visas and are working illegally. They knew the risk they were taking when they stayed on after their tourist visas expired. Now that they've been exposed they feel victimized because they may have to move away from border states, where authorities are more active in checking green cards and work permits. Big deal.

 

[Bajo_cero2]

The idea about that there are people with or without rights is nazi.

Discrimination is nazi.

Criminalization of immigrants is nazi too. They criminalized jews, gipsys, russians. Criminals are people who kill not immigrants who want to work.

You should read the criminal procedure Code of Germany during the nazi golden age and you will understand why I used properly this word.

And there are concentrations camps were people has no rights and torture is usual, do hear about Guantanamo?

Sorry guys, you were the good guys during WWII, not now.

Regards

 

[Carol]

After being more than 180 days in the country, can you start the process to get a student/rentist visa? if you go to Dirección de migraciones after your tourist visa expires, and ask to apply for a visa, can they deny it to you?