Senora Kirchner-Fernandez' lastest

Interesting that her latest rampage has not been mentioned on here by anyone.

Some of you may know...she just returned from Caracas where she was
"very distressed" by the idea that Colombia would have a possible agreement with the U.S. and have American troops there working with the Colombians to fight drug trafficking. Never mind that Colombia is a sovereign country and it is their business what they do. She and Senor Chavez are calling the peasants to arms.

About the only thing she can do on her own is pick out her daily splash of makeup and fingernail polish. Her ideas are not her own. She listens and does whatever Senor Chavez and her equally better husband direct her to do. They will stir the masses of illiterates by promising them choripan and a job and install hate for those that have money and do not support her leftist policies.

Now her latest plan to develop Cooperatives AND insist that all information collected by AFIP by made public for all to see. She is the self-appointed leader of social justice and inequality.

1. Just where is this money to support the jobs and infrastructure coming from? The wealthy? Foreigners perhaps?


2. Who is going to stop the nonsense? No one. The "wealthy" educated Argentines just go on like sheep thinking this is a first world country, completely blind to the reality that things are continuing to go downhill even faster but as long as they can go to Punta del Este or Bariloche then all is fine.

3. New 30% tax on all electronic/computer/cameras, etc. Already Argentina had the most hostile environment for imports and the most expensive in South America. Anything purchased considered to be "luxury" will be subject to punishment. Since when is a computer "luxury"?

4. New 30% payraise for the doormen/porteros which I have mentioned before. This was supposedly for the increase in electricity fees. What was the connection when they mostly live gratis in the first place? Will this new payraise be suspended now that electricity prices are going to be subsidized indefinitely? I don't think so.

5. Meanwhile, the Kirchners' personal income and real estate holdings have escalated so much that it actually has raised some red flags. But like we have seen SO many times over the years, nothing will ever come of it and they will eventually manage to maintain all they have stolen with no reprucussions whatsoever.

I obviously don't know what the solution is. I just raise the issues. I suppose the only thing one can do is to maintain a LOW profile and sit back and see what happens. It just appears to me that things are spiralling downhill FAST and money will be grabbed at the easiest, quickest way possible to support more and more "equitable" programs for the poor.

Some of you support La Presidenta and I am completely baffled as to why. Can you not see what these people are doing with their goons like Elia?

Perhaps shortly Argentina will join a federation with the Bolivaran Republic of Venezuela but as many will say, I am just too negative. Reality sucks sometimes.
 

ReemsterCARP

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rmartinbuenosaires said:
Interesting that her latest rampage has not been mentioned on here by anyone.

Some of you may know...she just returned from Caracas where she was
"very distressed" by the idea that Colombia would have a possible agreement with the U.S. and have American troops there working with the Colombians to fight drug trafficking. Never mind that Colombia is a sovereign country and it is their business what they do.
Well you can't really blame Latin-American leaders for being a bit weary about the Colombia - US militairy deal. The US have a very bad track record when it comes to political/military involvement in Latin-American politics. It's not just Kirchner and Chávez condemning this deal. Many other LA heads of government have spoken out against the agreement.

They will stir the masses of illiterates by promising them choripan and a job and install hate for those that have money and do not support her leftist policies.
There are so many policy differences between Chávez and CFK that you can't really compare them. Chávez' economic policy is aimed at transforming the economy into a socialist model. Los Kirchner have a more social-democratic profile.

1. Just where is this money to support the jobs and infrastructure coming from? The wealthy? Foreigners perhaps?
Everybody who pays taxes.


2. Who is going to stop the nonsense? No one. The "wealthy" educated Argentines just go on like sheep thinking this is a first world country, completely blind to the reality that things are continuing to go downhill even faster but as long as they can go to Punta del Este or Bariloche then all is fine.
Well that's exactly CFK's critique of the wealthy: they don't give a rat's ass about the poor Argentines.

3. New 30% tax on all electronic/computer/cameras, etc. Already Argentina had the most hostile environment for imports and the most expensive in South America. Anything purchased considered to be "luxury" will be subject to punishment. Since when is a computer "luxury"?
I agree that the new tax on electronics is rediculous, but within an Argentine context I'd consider a computer to be a luxury good yes.

4. New 30% payraise for the doormen/porteros which I have mentioned before. This was supposedly for the increase in electricity fees. What was the connection when they mostly live gratis in the first place? Will this new payraise be suspended now that electricity prices are going to be subsidized indefinitely? I don't think so.
Welcome to peronist, corporatist politics. It has been that way in Argentina since the 40's, this is hardly a new development.

5. Meanwhile, the Kirchners' personal income and real estate holdings have escalated so much that it actually has raised some red flags. But like we have seen SO many times over the years, nothing will ever come of it and they will eventually manage to maintain all they have stolen with no reprucussions whatsoever.
Again, the Kirchner are just the latest example in a string of corrupt politicians, or did you forget about Menem?

Some of you support La Presidenta and I am completely baffled as to why. Can you not see what these people are doing with their goons like Elia?
I personally don't support the president, nor the peronist party. I don't think the Kirchners have done a good job, but neither do I consider them to be Argentina's worst post WWII politicians. Nor do I see many viable alternatives. Maybe Macri or Cobos.

Perhaps shortly Argentina will join a federation with the Bolivaran Republic of Venezuela
I can't really see that happening. The political differences between Chávez and CFK are huge. Economic cooperation: yes. Political cooperation: yes, but within MERCOSUR / UNASUR.
 

nikad

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You just cannot imagine how happy I feel about all this, and all the news I read every day ( I am being sarcastic ) I thought things were going to change at least a bit after last elections defeat, but last week the Congress approved the extension of delegated powers to the Executive...

So many things are going the wrong way, that honestly I can´t imagine how to revert this. One thing is for sure: If Argentina turns into something nearly similar to Venezuela I am leaving for good with my family somewhere else.

Just like De Angeli said: " The Kirchners love the poor so much that they work hard to multiply them"
 

EvergreenGal

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Just like De Angeli said: " The Kirchners love the poor so much that they work hard to multiply them"

***Well if that isn't hitting the nail on the head, this has been the topic of many a discussion with friends and one that all have agreed on...sad but true...
 

soulskier

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As a result of the Colombia issue, 12 Latin American presidents will be meeting up the street from us at the Hotel Llao Llao on August 28. Should be interesting!
 

perry

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There are negative things in Argentina RmartinBuenosAires but there are also many positive things to love in this unique country. If I did a survey of most countries in the world It would be the same Im sure .

In regards to Colombia and the Bases I understand the concern of Argentina as well as most other Latin American Countries. This is a provactive act that will do no good to interneighbourly relationships between Colombia , Ecuador and Venezeula.

I find it Amazing that only 7 months into Obamas presidency that the war machine that he promised to scale down has been notched up many degrees with war clouds threatening Pakistan, Afghanistan.Iran , Eritrea, North Korea, Lebanon and others.

The missile defense program in Poland is on track to derail Russia and USA relationship and cause a serious flashpoint soon. In regards to Iran severe sanctions are being comptemplated by the USA to send it back to the stone age. I expect that in a few months time they will be bombed as well causing the Middle East and the world to be at the brink of World War 3

Back to the topic in hand I would rather live here in poverty than many first world countries that condone war and destruction on other defenseless people for economic benefits .
Argentina offers me hope something very few countries have done before and I am very happy that I emigrated here. I am positive that the society in the coming years will achieve balance between the haves and have nots.

This is the last frontier on the earth with the best climatic conditions as well as the worlds best arable land and if properly managed can achieve a dynamic productive society
 

Lucas

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Well said ReemsterCARP, you hit the nail right on the head

This kind of notes as posted by rmartinbuenosaires is a sample of the totally extreme right wing propaganda which feed confusion among poorly informed people. Don't fell for it...
 

nikad

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Peri, I think you confuse the people with their governments: I love the people here, but I hate the system, it is simply unfair.I am sure there are extremely nice societies and people in many other countries, the governments and politicians are extremely corrupt here and do not respect basic institutions.
 

perry

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Nikad please define extremely corrupt to me ? To me Argentina is very low on the world scale for extremely corrupt .
 
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