The worst pizza in the world?

ssr said:
And it still boggles my mind how all of the "Italians" here in Argentina manage to screw Italian food up so badly.

Because they are not Italian. The white people here mixed with the Spaniards. And anyone who have ever been to Spain knows that Pizza doesn't exist there (except of course for a few Italian restaurants). So the result is something in between.
 
Thanks for calling me "ridiculous" - you've made my day.

Pizza in the US stinks, even in Greek neighborhoods. (Except, of course, for your pizza joint, which was apparently the Eight Wonder of the World).

I've never had a good pizza in the States, and I've been all over the country: San Francisco, Chicago, Boston, Philadelphia, Washington, Denver, Providence, Miami, and New York. Everywhere I found the same greasy and bland concoction, overloaded with oregano to hide the lack of flavor. In fact, Italian food in the US seems largely to be just oregano with different nondescript things under it.

If you haven't managed to find good Italian food in Argentina, you are either looking in the wrong places, or on an extremely tight budget. But even on a tight budget, excellent pasta of all kinds can be found at neighborhood raviolerias, made daily from fresh ingredients. It is a matter of knowing where to shop. Which may be harder for an expat than it is for the locals.


ssr said:
Sara, you're being ridiculous.

I grew up in NYC with fantastic pizza and Italian food everywhere. And it still boggles my mind how all of the "Italians" here in Argentina manage to screw Italian food up so badly. There may be a decent place here and there in this city of millions (most of whom are desperate to tell foreigners about how "Italian" they are) but that's just not good enough. Having to trek halfway across the city to get a decent pizza is ridiculous.

I worked at a pizza joint in high school and my boss would get there early in the morning every day to start preparing for the day. His sauce was fantastic and his recipe a secret. All of their ingredients were top-quality and expensive because they were proud and competitive and making the best pizza in the neighborhood is how they earned the loyalty of their customers, even if they were a bit more expensive than some other joints.

That pride and competitive spirit doesn't exist here. Pizza joints are content to sell crap and their customers are content to eat it. It's nasty.

I don't even try pizza here anymore. It's not worth it. Better to gorge when I'm back home and just hold on to the delicious memories than eat any of the crap served here.
 
I completely disagree. Its a lot easier to find great Italian food in the US than here, especially pizzas. "Greasy and bland concoctions" I'm sorry you had such bad luck with Italian food in the states. "Oregano with different stuff under it" wow, thats really lazy and not all dishes need oregano.

Also, not all Italians here are mixed with Spaniards. Some families kept marrying other Italians. If they happen to be mixed, it shouldn't be an issue either. Italians in the US, Australia and the UK are all 100% Italians? You have to be 100% Italian to make the best Italian food? No!
 
ssr: Your post would have been more effective without the first line - an instance of totally gratuituous name calling.

What is it with people and name calling in this forum? Is it a fashion? A sport? A contest?

While making a point, calling names doesn't help. Trying to undercut an opponent by name-calling is a resource of those without valid arguments. (See Debating 101)

ssr said:
Sara, you're being ridiculous.

I grew up in NYC with fantastic pizza and Italian food everywhere. And it still boggles my mind how all of the "Italians" here in Argentina manage to screw Italian food up so badly. There may be a decent place here and there in this city of millions (most of whom are desperate to tell foreigners about how "Italian" they are) but that's just not good enough. Having to trek halfway across the city to get a decent pizza is ridiculous.

I worked at a pizza joint in high school and my boss would get there early in the morning every day to start preparing for the day. His sauce was fantastic and his recipe a secret. All of their ingredients were top-quality and expensive because they were proud and competitive and making the best pizza in the neighborhood is how they earned the loyalty of their customers, even if they were a bit more expensive than some other joints.

That pride and competitive spirit doesn't exist here. Pizza joints are content to sell crap and their customers are content to eat it. It's nasty.

I don't even try pizza here anymore. It's not worth it. Better to gorge when I'm back home and just hold on to the delicious memories than eat any of the crap served here.
 
SaraSara said:
ssr: Your post would have been more effective without the first line - an instance of totally gratuituous name calling.

What is it with people and name calling in this forum? Is it a fashion? A sport? A contest?

While making a point, calling names doesn't help. Trying to undercut an opponent by name-calling is a resource of those without valid arguments. (See Debating 101)



And what's gratuitous about name calling...especially if the shoe fits?

And why is the quality of pizza here a matter of such monumental importance to so many?

Even at it's best, it's only pizza...

How many world renown chefs (besides Wolfgang Puck) are known for their pizza?

In the US, the average dough thrower is a high school kid...if not a dropout.
 
steveinbsas said:
In the US, the average dough thrower is a high school kid...if not a dropout.
haha yes thats right, isn't it amazing that those dropouts can make a decent pizza and the "italian" chefs in Buenos Aires can't...
 
steveinbsas said:
And why is the quality of pizza here a matter of such monumental importance to so many?
Don't even get me started on all the other crappy food in Buenos Aires:)
 
orwellian said:
You're such a hypocrite SaraSara.

As I said before, name-calling is the last resource of those without good arguments.
Thanks for illustrating my point.
 
Quentin.Daniels said:
Don't even get me started on all the other crappy food in Buenos Aires:)

That's why I cook...and don't have to complain about restaurant food in BA.
 
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