Train accident in Once (linea Sarmiento) 340 wounded

[va2ba]

All I really want to see is a protest. And not the "protests" from K's slum supporters who turn the Downtown into chaos every now and then. But a protest of normal, every day Argentines, regardless of political affiliation standing together peacefully to demand change.

There doesn't have to be any stones thrown in any direction, but the people have to at least be able to say that they are tired of all this and that they want change. The government needs to know that people are paying attention.

But the true question is, are the Argentines paying attention to all this?

 

[Gringoboy]

As if CK gives a fuck!
Packed her bags and went south, nice and safe.
Obviously likes to lead from the back.
And Macri? Where is he when needed?
PFA had to tear gas the mob tonight and quite rightly.
Negros de mierda who have no idea of the misery of Lucas's family.
In this I support the Police. They had no choice.
Protect the family was and is their top priority.

 

[elhombresinnombre]

Anyway, privatization of rail transports has often resulted into disasters (in the UK within the past 25 years too if I recall my neighbour's country history).

I'm not too sure: you'd probably need a rail consultant's input to get a meaningful view on that. One of the reasons Britain nationalised the railways in the first place was because of the horrific accident rate under private ownership (i.e. for the public good) and yet the re-privatisation was for pretty much idealogical reasons. I've lived through public and private ownership and I recollect pretty bad accidents under both. These, in particular spring to mind
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eltham_Well_Hall_rail_crash
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potters_Bar_rail_accidents

Public transportation should be nationalized. Main purpose of it is to transport people safely, before any profit consideration (two antagonist forces)...

Here, I absolutely agree. The railways in Britain are run by public companies with shareholders and it is actually against company law to run such a company other than for the benefit of those shareholders. Public ownership should see more money invested in the railways or, at the very least, less money ending up in the dividends and bonuses of the shareholders and directors. Even though Britain's train fares are amongst the most expensive in the world, the railways still receive government subsidy and it is ridiculous that this subsidy should end up in the pockets of investors.

Where do stand our countries, France, US, UK and others regarding corruption?

Heheheh. After the BAE scandal where it was revealed that the company had delivered over One Billion Pounds of bribes to a Saudi Arabian prince, http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/jun/08/bae3 http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/bae I was delighted to dance in front of my Argentine friends and chant 'The British are best! The British are best! See - we even do corruption on a bigger scale!'

Interestingly, and to our even greater national shame, BAE were prosecuted in the USA and plea-bargained their way to fines amounting to tens of millions of dollars but in Britain the corruption case was dropped because 'it was not in the public interest to procede.'

 

[Gringoboy]

And I think this the ride that CK will now face, if she bothers to come back
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIueM1eIq5w&feature=related

 

[Gringoboy]

And I hope she watches this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66nqhVtq6xo

 

[dennisr]

Where do stand our countries, France, US, UK and others regarding corruption?

Corruption in the USA? We have decided to take the 5th Amendment.

 

[French jurist]

Heheheh. After the BAE scandal where it was revealed that the company had delivered over One Billion Pounds of bribes to a Saudi Arabian prince, http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/jun/08/bae3 http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/bae I was delighted to dance in front of my Argentine friends and chant 'The British are best! The British are best! See - we even do corruption on a bigger scale!'

Interestingly, and to our even greater national shame, BAE were prosecuted in the USA and plea-bargained their way to fines amounting to tens of millions of dollars but in Britain the corruption case was dropped because 'it was not in the public interest to procede.'

I got a nice corruption case regarding France:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Karachi_bus_bombing

Mhhh... Kickbacks on a Pakistani contract to finance the French presidential election of Édouard Balladur (Sarkozy involved). French side was supposed to give back a few millions, did not. 11 French engineers died as a result...

Or
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liliane_Bettencourt
She's the richest woman in France, is a bit senile, gave 1.3 billion $ to a friend (!), financed the last presidential campaign...

We do quite well in France too...

 

[Raymond]

All I really want to see is a protest. And not the "protests" from K's slum supporters who turn the Downtown into chaos every now and then. But a protest of normal, every day Argentines, regardless of political affiliation standing together peacefully to demand change.

There doesn't have to be any stones thrown in any direction, but the people have to at least be able to say that they are tired of all this and that they want change. The government needs to know that people are paying attention.

But the true question is, are the Argentines paying attention to all this?

The locals I have spoken with obviously see it, and think the situation is a joke and a big mess. As Mr. Smith said "That´s the sound of inevitability."

The violent protestors don´t help at all except to dull the voices of those that are truely crying to be heard and have need. This is an issue which the growing schools of sardines which are shipped into the city each day have been miming of for years, the corruption runs deep and the gob. are slow to follow-up on the use of their gob. subsidised funds that are given each year to maintain the system.
Sad.

 

[TheBlackHand]

Someone needs to go to jail for this. This is just ridiculous.

 

[scotttswan]

times are changing i think. right now there's only 1 channel covering their silly little meeting in ushuaia. https://www.google.com/search?hl=en...OvSAY69mJUP&ved=0CCcQvwUoAQ&q=ushuaia&spell=1