Get your pots out for the lads!

I would also like to know what the June 7th comment refers to. What happening?
 
"hashtag #Cacerolazo, ya empezó el movimiento para otra vuelta: el 7 de junio podrían volver a sonar las cacerolas."

Twitter deal where I guess the restless organize and communicate. Sounds like another round is in the works for June 7th?
 
In addition to all the top K political figures having hordes stashed away in dollars and insisting that the peso is the future and trying to pesify Argentina, it was also noted that all of Kristina's hotels charge room rates and services in dollars.

Another example of the hipokrisy at its finest. It makes me want to actually start banging pots and pans right now LOL
 
AngelinBA said:
My very Kirchnerista workmate's take on the cacerolazo was that it is the rich crying because they are not allowed dollars - that these rich expect us (the poor, downtrodden) to go without essentials like food, etc so that they can keep up their habit of buying dollars and travelling freely around the world. So they head out into the street and make all sorts of quilombo, disrupting the lives of the ordinary citizen (???!)
It was interesting to hear en vivo y directo what the typical K take on the cacerolazo was.
On another note, my husband says that 50 years ago, a famous Argentine political comedian did a sketch on spending the day buying and selling dollars and making a small profit. The 'dollar' culture is very old and very ingrained in Argentine society.
Interesting, AngelinBA but somehow I don't think this is simply about NOT being able to get our hands on dollars, it's much more than that.
As others have said, the catalyst may have been Anibal Fernandez, you know, the bloke with that rat on his upper lip.
He gets caught out on radio, loses his rag and then it's all too effing late.
 
AngelinBA said:
My very Kirchnerista workmate's take on the cacerolazo was that it is the rich crying because they are not allowed dollars - that these rich expect us (the poor, downtrodden) to go without essentials like food, etc so that they can keep up their habit of buying dollars and travelling freely around the world. So they head out into the street and make all sorts of quilombo, disrupting the lives of the ordinary citizen (???!)

Right. Economics as a zero-sum game. Add in a little resentment, xenophobia, authoritarianism, ignorance, and hypocrisy... and... Voila! Peronism. It's a particularly resistant form of corporate statism. And dismissing the protesters as "rich" (or "cipayo" or "vende-patria") is just a quick and easy way to dismiss whatever criticism they have (the old argument ad hominem). And besides, this is about so much more than currency controls. The list has been accumulating for while.
 
AngelinBA said:
My very Kirchnerista workmate's take on the cacerolazo was that it is the rich crying because they are not allowed dollars - that these rich expect us (the poor, downtrodden) to go without essentials like food, etc so that they can keep up their habit of buying dollars and travelling freely around the world.

I have a friend who believe the same, and shared this picture that was allegedly snapped last night. I guess you could take two ideas from this picture: 1) The government is angering not just the rich, but the poor as well, or 2) that this wealthy woman "forced" her maid to come out and beat the pan for her. A very interesting photo, regardless. Thoughts?
 

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BienTeVeo said:
Right. Economics as a zero-sum game. Add in a little resentment, xenophobia, authoritarianism, ignorance, and hypocrisy... and... Voila! Peronism. It's a particularly resistant form of corporate statism. And dismissing the protesters as "rich" (or "cipayo" or "vende-patria") is just a quick and easy way to dismiss whatever criticism they have (the old argument ad hominem). And besides, this is about so much more than currency controls. The list has been accumulating for while.

I think that most on this board agree that it's about so much more than currency controls. BUT... for most Argentines, it is as simple as currency controls.

If a majority think that a small minority of spoiled rich people are whining, that's all that matters. This isn't 1955. The military isn't going to bomb the Plaza de Mayo. The CIA isn't going to encourage (assist?) a military coup. This is majority rule. That's the thing about a democracy, everyone's vote counts.

To think that EVERYONE sees that it's about more than wanting to buy dollars to travel is to totally miss the way a majority of the population live on a daily basis. If you have a computer and have time to post on this site (and are fluent in English), then you already are far removed from the average citizen.

It might be frustrating for many on this board, but it's the simple truth.
 
ElQueso said:
Just petered out San Martin Plaza.

So is that what was going on in the plaza? Did that have something to do with it?
I was waiting for my husband across the road on that corner bar. I was wondering what was going on. :)
 
AngelinBA said:
My very Kirchnerista workmate's take on the cacerolazo was that it is the rich crying because they are not allowed dollars - that these rich expect us (the poor, downtrodden) to go without essentials like food, etc so that they can keep up their habit of buying dollars and travelling freely around the world. So they head out into the street and make all sorts of quilombo, disrupting the lives of the ordinary citizen (???!)
It was interesting to hear en vivo y directo what the typical K take on the cacerolazo was.
On another note, my husband says that 50 years ago, a famous Argentine political comedian did a sketch on spending the day buying and selling dollars and making a small profit. The 'dollar' culture is very old and very ingrained in Argentine society.

I sure want to see that sketch!!
 
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