Get your pots out for the lads!

Marche exile said:
So is that what was going on in the plaza? Did that have something to do with it?
I was waiting for my husband across the road on that corner bar. I was wondering what was going on. :)

Well, I was listening (and banging my own pot!) from the balconey. I can see Plaza San Martin from here (the park near Esmeralda) near where you were (I love that cafe :) ) but only a bit of the park near that corner. I didn't see a gathering, but must have been just out of my sight.

I'm sure that's what it was.

Our portero, who is a German descendant from Entre Rios (actually speaks spanish with a marked german accent), bitches all the time about Cristina and the government. He was out with his wife and others from our building, in the street below, banging away as well.
 
The dominant K news media have been busy painting this as the spoilt 'chetos from Recoleta' rebellion & making sure the term 'currency controls' was well inserted next to the accompanying pictures, they hope to dilute the seriousness of the anger...but I was there in the middle of the crowd for more than two hours & not once did I hear anything about 'divisas' or currency controls.

Most of the crowd were there cause they felt angry about the magnitude of the corruption under CFK, the inflation, the high crime rate, the mismanagement of the economy etc...no one chanted anything about the dollar controls.
 
dr__dawggy said:
Wonder what her take is on Madame K and all her cronies stashing their loot in dollars? Here is a take from one of my pot banging friends:
" The main government spokesman for the theme that Argentinians should "think in Pesos," who was long Cristina's chief of staff and now is a senator, was asked yesterday on the radio about his own substantial savings in Dollars and he snapped, "I bought them because I felt like it, what I do with my money is my business, I'm not about to exchange them for Pesos now and lose money, and by the way, they are in a safe place (i.e., not in a bank)." How rich is that? His comments helped fuel the cacerolazo last night. Today's La Nación has a story about the savings held by La Presidenta and her cabinet members in Dollars. She has over US$3 million stashed away. Her VP has 94% of his savings in Dollars, the Minister of Foreign Affairs has 86%, the Justice Minister has 98%, and so on. "

Not only this but take a look at the hard numbers of how much CFK's net worth has increased since her husband took office. Look at the vast real estate portfolio they own! Then look at the annual salary of her now deceased husband and her. She buys $700 US shoes and $3,000 outfits.

So don't just look at her cash in banks around the world but just look INSIDE Argentina and look at the millions upon millions of dollars in apartments, houses, hotels, commercial buildings her family has purchased over the past 8 years.
 
notebook.fix said:
The dominant K news media have been busy painting this as the spoilt 'chetos from Recoleta' rebellion & making sure the term 'currency controls' was well inserted next to the accompanying pictures, they hope to dilute the seriousness of the anger...but I was there in the middle of the crowd for more than two hours & not once did I hear anything about 'divisas' or currency controls.

Most of the crowd were there cause they felt angry about the magnitude of the corruption under CFK, the inflation, the high crime rate, the mismanagement of the economy etc...no one chanted anything about the dollar controls.

I don't doubt this.
 
Napoleon said:
If you have a computer and have time to post on this site (and are fluent in English), then you already are far removed from the average citizen.

It might be frustrating for many on this board, but it's the simple truth.

"removed from the average citizen" ? Do not know about that one. Maybe the politicians are removed from the average Joe. Have been hard pressed to find anyone, rich or poor that has not had enough of this inflation BS with no relief in sight. When motor mouth started talking about his dollar savings it primed the pump. I go to the bank with my GF when she collects her Mother's pension, mother has Alzheimer's, and all I hear from all the sweet little old ladies and all is "puta madre cristina ..". Kind of gets my attention to hear these sweet little old ladies vent their anger so eloquently. Maybe I am out of touch? Think this discontent is much deeper than what most realize.
 
We are NOT far removed from the average citizen, even if we are expats. Utter nonsense.
The 'average' citizen of this country is pretty damned savvy actually. Most are connected to the net 24/7 with fruit flavoured phones and there is a locutorio on every corner.
Most people have a PC of sorts in their house, even if they live in a villa....hang on, CFK gave out a few million netbooks, so that's covered that then.
I certainly don't put myself on a pedestal in comparison to the locals as we are in this effing mess together.
Where can I find a copy of 'Rise and Fall'?
 
bradlyhale said:
I have a friend who believe the same, and shared this picture that was allegedly snapped last night. I guess you could take two ideas from this picture: 1) The government is angering not just the rich, but the poor as well, or 2) that this wealthy woman "forced" her maid to come out and beat the pan for her. A very interesting photo, regardless. Thoughts?

I can tell you with 100% certainty that this photo was not taken last night. I remember it from 2008.
 
BienTeVeo said:
I can tell you with 100% certainty that this photo was not taken last night. I remember it from 2008.

Just saw your post, researched it, and indeed, Pagina12 says its from a 2008 regarding the famous 'retenciones.' Thus, the use of the word "allegedly" in my OP. The point about the photo making an interesting statement, however, still stands. I think there are two ways that you can see the picture, which is often influenced by one's political perspective.
 
bradlyhale said:
I have a friend who believe the same, and shared this picture that was allegedly snapped last night. I guess you could take two ideas from this picture: 1) The government is angering not just the rich, but the poor as well, or 2) that this wealthy woman "forced" her maid to come out and beat the pan for her. A very interesting photo, regardless. Thoughts?

There are three angles. The first two are in your post.

1) Rich and poor both are sick of this government.

2) The rich lady is so vain and arrogant that she MADE her maid bang the pot for her. (Turn this on its head and you have the following point).

3) The rich lady is so benevolent that she is sending her maid on a vacation overseas. To Paris, actually. And the rich lady provided the maid with all the financial help she would need from hotels and airfare to cash. It just so happens that the cash the rich lady has is in Pesos. No one in the world gives a rat's @$$ about Pesos. The maid needs Euros and so she's out there protesting against this crap and the rich lady is there to support her.

I know the image is not from these protests but seriously, number 2 and 3 are pretty stupid, if you think about it. I just took your second idea and turned it on its head. Both of them are extreme views. Seeing that the second view comes from the K worshipers (not saying you're one of them bradlyhale, just heard this kinda stuff before, is all), one can see how far they're willing to go to either keep others blind or stay blind themselves.

PS: Just so no troll or low IQ individual takes this the wrong way, view # 3 is a complete fabrication and a story concocted by me about 5 minutes ago.
 
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