Occupy Wallstreet... and Bs As?

[Joe]

I think it's safe to say that the people on this forum are 99% to the left and liberal, and I certainly respect that.

I don't consider myself left or liberal. I believe most of government spending is garbage including the military industrial complex and foreign adventures.

When I mention I am against endless wars, the Fox addled junkie immediately assumes I'm a Marxist.

I think there is a LOT LESS that 99% leftists on this board but there may be 99% that don't strictly follow the Fox Agenda.

 

[jp]

I believe in free speech and protest, but not doing it in the middle of the streets like a bunch of spoiled teenagers that didn't get what they wanted.

They got exactly what they wanted. They got coverage for their cause in every newspaper and TV station around the entire world. A tiny number of people experienced disruption. Boo hoo. Meanwhile, the issue gets put to the top of the agenda again, and an enormous amount of political pressure is created due to the need to respond to the fairly well grounded anger of millions of tax paying voters.

What sort of coverage do you think they would have got if they had protested quietly in an underground carpark outside of town (lest they disturb people)?

El que no llora no mama.

 

[PhilipDT]

people like myself who think we need a new system all together

Are you kidding?? I just spent 10 minutes browsing that website and I can't even form a response. My jaw is hanging open.

From your link

What if you didn’t need any money to get all you want today? What if you could get all you think you want today without any money? Travel anywhere you like, drive cool cars (non-polluting ones!), live in a nice place, ‘have’ this and that new electronic device, go to concerts, eat good food, relax, study what ever you want for as long as you want
....
Say you want to go on a boat trip. What if you could just book a seat on a boat, and go? Or, better yet, book a whole boat, a yacht, if you will, and sail away. It would be pretty boring alone, so you bring some friends along. Good. What about food? All the food you want is provided. So is clothing. And everything else. None of it is really yours, yet all of it is. It’s everyones. It won’t be like; “hey, I need a pair of underwear, give me yours!”. Of course not. There would be plenty of underwear, enough for everyone, in enough different colors and shapes. And boats.

and it just goes on like that.

WOW

 

[Johnny]

Many posters on this thread citing the protester's "leftist agenda". What's wrong with a leftist agenda ?! Maybe we should all bow down the hyper-capitalists who through their insatiable greed are intent on killing the goose that laid the golden egg. And, in the process, not just the golden egg, but damn near all eggs.

Que pasa Che ?!

 

[gsi16386]

They got exactly what they wanted. They got coverage for their cause in every newspaper and TV station around the entire world. A tiny number of people experienced disruption. Boo hoo. Meanwhile, the issue gets put to the top of the agenda again, and an enormous amount of political pressure is created due to the need to respond to the fairly well grounded anger of millions of tax paying voters.

What sort of coverage do you think they would have got if they had protested quietly in an underground carpark outside of town (lest they disturb people)?

El que no llora no mama.

Ahhhh...spoken like a true Argentinian. Let's all get out in the middle of the streets and protest, disrupt life for everyone else, because who really cares about them right?? It's US US....ME ME ME....ridiculous.

This is my last post because I have to work and continue to grow my wealth...I wish you all luck with the protests and the complete overhaul of the US political system.

 

[mariposa]

This is my last post because I have to work and continue to grow my wealth...I wish you all luck with the protests and the complete overhaul of the US political system.

have a nice day

 

[captainmcd]

The protesters are angry because they feel left behind in an economy that is in recession. Many spent a lot of time and money furthering their education hoping for jobs that don't exist. I doubt that many of them would prefer the life of government control available in North Korea or Cuba. I don't think more government control or regulation will help. So many well intentioned laws and regulations wind up having an effect that is opposite of the intended one.

 

[sesamosinsal]

Are you kidding?? I just spent 10 minutes browsing that website and I can't even form a response. My jaw is hanging open.

It's called a resource-based economy. It prioritizes meeting people's needs and solving human problems for the sake of humanity and not for profit. If you're interested in understanding it in-depth, I suggest the documentary "Zeitgeist: Moving Forward." The present paradigm profits off of human needs and problems. Sick and dying people are good for the GDP. Wars are good for the GDP. Using cheap fossil fuels to pollute the air is good for the GDP. We have the resources to feed everyone, to house everyone, to provide water for everyone, to provide medical care for everyone, yet none of that can happen under the current paradigm unless someone can make a buck. You should probably consider spending more than 10 minutes to understand it, given that you've spent probably a lifetime falling in love with the present paradigm that has probably benefited you and me greatly, but not most of the world.

 

[Ries]

Did you see what those schmucks looked like? With their piercings, mohawks, dreadlocks, and hippy gear? It looked like a punk rock show let out and they had nowhere to go.

No one will take them seriously, nor will I.

I will be 57 this year- that means I was a "hippy", then a "punk", back when both were new. Got some tattoos and piercings myself.
And I know physicists, poets, fishermen and professors who look, or have looked, just like those "schmucks".
Most of em are taken quite seriously.

Nothing stupider than judging someone you dont know based on how they look.

I find this occupation a lot like the Tahir Square movement in Egypt- kids who live in society that gives them no place to grow- education at $50,000 a year, no jobs, no health care, no significant political voice- who dont know exactly what they want, but sure arent getting a fair shake today.

I have kids that age- and I talk to them, and their friends. All are well educated, and severely underemployed. Most 20 somethings in america today do not expect to live anywhere near as well as their parents did, most dont expect to be able to own a home, or ever have a job that includes a pension or health care.

Who can blame them for being frustrated?

The best responses, in terms of demands, that I have seen, are these two- a very articulate young man who is far from a "schmuck"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6yrT-0Xbrn4
and Nicholas Kristoff's list of possible changes.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/02/opinion/sunday/kristof-the-bankers-and-the-revolutionaries.html

there are a lot of very smart people in the USA today who are not happy with the way Wall Street has been operating.

 

[Joe]

This is my last post because I have to work and continue to grow my wealth...I wish you all luck with the protests and the complete overhaul of the US political system.

A lot of these people would also like to "grow their wealth" and work hard like you but they cannot find any work.

Some of you would like them to just roll up in a dirty blanket and die on the street but many are not going to go down without a fight.