Passionate Argentinos, Producer Of Fangio And The Affluents

[ghost]

Another thread gone 180 degrees off the track. And yes......................................WOW!

 

[Ries]

Also, important point, being Jewish is a religion, not a nationality. Therefore it has nothing to do with economic or other success or failure, or power . Jews are found in many countries and economic groups just like Muslims, Christians and Buddhists...we are all from the same family of human beings.

Unfortunately, this is not true.

Being Jewish IS a religion.
But being Jewish is also a genetic heritage.
Many people were killed by the Nazis who were not religious, but, as far as Hitler was concerned, they were still Jews.
Especially in Argentina, or the USA, today, you have many people who have not been very religious for generations, but, in the eyes of Neo-Nazis and Anti-Semites, they are still Jews.
If your mother was Jewish, you are Jewish, even if you have never been in a synagogue in your life.
The Israeli government will accept you as a citizen, and there are places where people will happily kill you, even if the only religion you have ever practiced was Buddhist or Protestant, if your mother was a Jew.

 

[Hybrid Ambassador]

Ries wrote: _Of course, nobody ever rounded up 10 or 12 million Japanese, and exterminated them, just because of their ancestry.
And, today, there are not anti-Japanese groups in many countries, advocating death to all Japanese_ ..Well Not millions, but right after WW II broke out, all Japanese americans has been deprived, expropriated of their belonging and their properties and corralled as if cows or horses in the concentration camps in CA and elsewhere then America. They were all "american citizens" born and raised in the US. but no chance to those poor bastards because they were from Japanese ancestry..Extermination ? Not really but talked to many of the detainees at Manzanar concentration camp and they said, it was better to be killed then than being encarcerated in the middle of freezing cold desert in the winters and hot inferno during the summer months and the barracks had to be put up by those Amercan Japanese . No anti-japanese groups now days? Not group, but nations, just look at the Chinese and the Koreans, even the head honcho of united nations, a Korean citizen no less, just spoke out naming Japanese as the perpetraitor..

 

[Hybrid Ambassador]

Bringing the thread back to its course, so among the Lunfardo and the voseo speaking Argentinos, where are they hiding those exotic and mega expensive super cars.?

 

[Ries]

Ries wrote: _Of course, nobody ever rounded up 10 or 12 million Japanese, and exterminated them, just because of their ancestry.
And, today, there are not anti-Japanese groups in many countries, advocating death to all Japanese_ ..Well Not millions, but right after WW II broke out, all Japanese americans has been deprived, expropriated of their belonging and their properties and corralled as if cows or horses in the concentration camps in CA and elsewhere then America. They were all "american citizens" born and raised in the US. but no chance to those poor bastards because they were from Japanese ancestry..Extermination ? Not really but talked to many of the detainees at Manzanar concentration camp and they said, it was better to be killed then than being encarcerated in the middle of freezing cold desert in the winters and hot inferno during the summer months and the barracks had to be put up by those Amercan Japanese . No anti-japanese groups now days? Not group, but nations, just look at the Chinese and the Koreans, even the head honcho of united nations, a Korean citizen no less, just spoke out naming Japanese as the perpetraitor..

I know several people who were in those camps. A couple of good friends of mine grew up in them.
It was a terrible thing, something every american should be ashamed of.

However, my Japanese American friends are still alive.

Jews who stayed in Europe during WW2 mostly are not.

I see a slight difference there.


I am a car guy- always have been. I spot interesting cars a block or two away.
And there are just not very many "exotic and mega expensive super cars" in Argentina.

You will see things like Renault Alpines, though, which I think is quite a pretty car, although towards the end of its run it got awfully close to a 911.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gn2T6bi3fXI

You will, on occasion, see one of the estimated 25 surviving Justicialista sports cars- which has a porsche engine, but is, aside from that, an Argentine Car-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAME_Justicialista
I have a friend who is currently restoring a basket case Justicialista Gran Sport. He even found the flat 4 Porsche engine for it.

You might see an Abarth Cistalia http://www.arcar.org/cisitalia-abarth-850-55159

or a cool Fiat 1600 Coupes- I actually see these once a week or so- they are pretty, not expensive, and beloved here-
http://www.arcar.org/fiat-1600-coupe-sport-1971-54680

In general, though, Argentines are NOT wealthy, and you very rarely see really expensive foreign cars.
As I have tried to tell you before, duties and taxes equal out to about 100%.
That means, you take the price in Japan or the USA, and DOUBLE IT.

Personally, I am much more interested in the old beauties I see all the time in Argentina, than in the latest ferrari.
But thats just me, I guess- I like Rastajeros.
In fact, I used to own the Toyota equivalent of a Rastajero- a 1966 Toyota Stout truck.

http://encarsglobe.com/photo/im/ime-rastrojero/02/

http://bringatrailer.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/1966_Toyota_Stout_1900_Pick_Up_Truck_Front_1.jpg

 

[internationalguy]

I must say WOW as well. I'm sure you also think that Israel doesn't have the right to defend itself..... Preposterous. Shocking. Just that you know, I had a Jewish friend that was in a very bad situation financially. Sure, if there's a community they help each other so they don't starve (shouldn't all humans do the same with each other), but that doesn't mean he was driving a 6 series or anything like it. You need to get a grip Hybrid.

 

[Crema Americana]

Lexus isn't that well known here - people with money would rather have an Audi , Alfa Romeo, or BMW since they are more prestigious/recognizable brands.

No comment on the Jew discussion!!

 

[internationalguy]

Lexus isn't that well known here - people with money would rather have an Audi , Alfa Romeo, or BMW since they are more prestigious/recognizable brands.

No comment on the Jew discussion!!

I would take German over Japanese any day of the week. Except for low budget cars, German cars are always superior.

 

[Ries]

I rode in a german car in Argentina not too long ago- it was superior.

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[citygirl]

I'll add my Wow to one part of the discussion.

As for the rest, there are very few luxury cars here compared to other major cities. Even the "luxury" cars tend to be your mid range BMWs, Audis, etc. For one thing, driving a luxury car is an invitation to getting carjacked. For another, the roads tend to SUCK here. No point in driving an expensive sports car when you're going to face potholes everywhere. The crossover SUV types from Volvo, BMW, etc tend to be very popular in the more rural areas for those with lots of disposable income.