Pirate state of Israel

AlexfromLA said:
lol

does anyone here actually take the time to read this trolls BS ?

:|

seriously ?
Well, we know you don't and you're proud of it. You like staying ignorant, but there may be some people who have an interest in what Aznar thinks.
 
lol

what a douche.

I think intelligent people understand when they are being forced fed propaganda and simply choose to ignore it.

Good luck with the whole manufactured consent bit though. Goebbels would be proud.
 
"what a douche."
"I think intelligent people understand when they are being force fed propaganda and simply choose to ignore it."

I don't know whether to break out into a chorus of "sticks and stones will break my bones, but names will never hurt me" or say nothing and simply hope that your uncouth, puerile remarks will now cease. One thing is for sure. You prior posts demonstrate you could not possibly have any idea what intelligent people will understand.
p.s. I'll make this my last reply to you because it isn't wise to argue with a pig. You both will end up in the mud, but the pig will enjoy it.
 
But deep down, they really, really want peace!

You readers of Haaretz will surely have seen this article from the June 21 edition which reports on the Zahar interview with the East Jerusalem newspaper, Al Quds. It appeared in Haaretz under the following leads.

Hamas official: Palestinians should fire at Israel from West Bank.
Army Radio quotes Mahmoud Zahar as saying that Hamas would never change its policy of 'resistance' against Israel.

Palestinians should initiate rocket attacks on Israel from the West Bank, Israel Radio quoted Hamas strongman Mahmoud Zahar as saying in an interview on Sunday [06/20], saying that such as (sic) move was necessary.
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diploma...should-fire-at-israel-from-west-bank-1.297245
 
Prime Minister's Office statement following Israeli Security Cabinet meeting June 20:

Israel seeks to keep weapons and war materiel out of Gaza while liberalizing the system by which civilian goods enter Gaza.

Israel's policy is to protect its citizens against terror, rocket and other attacks from Gaza. In seeking to keep weapons and war materiel out of Gaza while liberalizing the system by which civilian goods enter Gaza, the Government of Israel has decided to implement the following steps as quickly as possible:

1. Publish a list of items not permitted into Gaza that is limited to weapons and war materiel, including problematic dual-use items. All items not on this list will be permitted to enter Gaza.

2. Enable and expand the inflow of dual-use construction materials for approved PA-authorized projects (schools, health facilities, water, sanitation, etc.) that are under international supervision and for housing projects such as the U.N. housing development being completed at Khan Yunis. Israel intends to accelerate the approval of such projects in accordance with accepted mechanisms and procedures.

3. Expand operations at the existing operating land crossings, thereby enabling the processing of a significantly greater volume of goods through the crossings and the expansion of economic activity.

4. Add substantial capacity at the existing operating land crossings and, as more processing capacity becomes necessary and when security concerns are fully addressed, open additional land crossings.

5. Streamline the policy of permitting the entry and exit of people for humanitarian and medical reasons and that of employees of international aid organizations that are recognized by the GOI. As conditions improve, Israel will consider additional ways to facilitate the movement of people to and from Gaza.

6. Israel will continue to facilitate the expeditious inspection and delivery of goods bound for Gaza through the port of Ashdod.

Israel welcomes cooperation and coordination with its international and regional partners in implementing this policy and will continue to discuss with them additional ways to advance this policy.

The current security regime for Gaza will be maintained. Israel reiterates that along with the U.S., EU and others, it considers Hamas a terrorist organization. The international community must insist on a strict adherence to the Quartet principles regarding Hamas.

Hamas took over Gaza and turned it into a hostile territory from which Hamas prepares and carries out attacks against Israel and its citizens. The Israel Defense Forces will continue to prevent the flow into and out of Gaza of terrorist operatives, weapons, war material and dual use items which enhance the military capability of Hamas and other terrorist groups in Gaza. Israel calls on the international community to stop the smuggling of weapons and war materials into Gaza.

Gilad Shalit is approaching four years in captivity. The international community should join Israel in strongly condemning those who hold him captive and in redoubling their efforts to secure his immediate release.
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darmanad said:
Army Radio quotes Mahmoud Zahar as saying that Hamas would never change its policy of 'resistance' against Israel.

'resistance' (clave word) they must be resisting something....aggression, deprivation, pride, occupation, extermination exploitation, expropriation, their own land to live dignified and free, etc, etc, etc.
 
Notwithstanding the absence of a complete and detailed account of the incident, Turkey's government has been relentless in its castigation of Israel's alleged use of excessive force against Hamas in general and the Gaza bound Marmara in particular. Comparatively little press coverage is given to Turkey's tactics against its own rebellious citizens.

Turkey's PM Erdogan vows to 'annihilate' PKK rebels

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/europe/10359237.stm
(June 20)
 
Lucas said:
'resistance' (clave word) they must be resisting something....aggression, deprivation, pride, occupation, extermination exploitation, expropriation, their own land to live dignified and free, etc, etc, etc.

Yes, they are resisting "something", but it is not any of the noble things you guess at. The Hamas Charter of 1988, history and an elementary knowledge of the core tenets of Islam evidence beyond the shadow of a doubt that what Hamas resists is the continued existence of the state of Israel (along with a lot of other stuff you would find shocking). Thats why the UN, EU, Russia and US have all defined Hamas as an outlawed, terrorist organization.

For anyone who hasn't bothered to read the Hamas charter I urge you to do so. Just google it and you will get oodles of choices, annotated and otherwise. There is a lot of scary stuff in there, way too many horrific pronouncements to try to repeat here although I think the following portions are especially pertinent to the topic.

Introduction:
"Israel will rise and will remain erect until Islam eliminates it as it had eliminated its predecessors."

Article Eleven: The Strategy of Hamas: Palestine is an Islamic Waqf
(“A waqf is an unconditional/permanent dedication of property with implied detention in the ownership of god)
The Islamic Resistance Movement (aka Hamas) believes that the land of Palestine has been an Islamic Waqf throughout the generations and until the Day of Resurrection, no one can renounce it or part of it, or abandon it or part of it.

Article Thirteen: Peaceful Solutions, [Peace] Initiatives and International Conferences
[Peace] initiatives, the so-called peaceful solutions, and the international conferences to resolve the Palestinian problem, are all contrary to the beliefs of the Islamic Resistance Movement.

Hamas, like Hexbollah, Al Qaida and the various Taliban, is a fundamentalist religious organization. Article One of the Charter provides: Article One: The Ideological Aspects: The Islamic Resistance Movement draws its guidelines from Islam; derves from it its thinking, interpretations and views about existence, life and humanity; refers back to it for its conduct; and is inspired by it in whatever step it takes.

In accord with the dictates of Islam's holy book, the Quran, Hamas seeks to impose by jihad a worldwide caliphate, e.g., a totalitarian theocracy governed by sharia law. Sharia law prohibits freedom of religion. You must convert to Islam, or live as a subjugated "dhimmi", ...or be put to death. Sharia prohibits freedom of conscience. All schools of Islamic thought prescribe death for apostasy. Sharia prohibits freedom of expression. You can be put to death if you criticize (blaspheme) the faith or its prophet, Mohammed. Remember Salman Rushdie ?

Sharia is not exactly a user-friendly code of conduct. It prescribes death for premarital sex (for the women only, of course) and has similar attitudes and penalties for homosexual conduct. Women are treated as second class citizens under the law and physical abuse of wives is condoned. Just ask any Muslim if you don't believe me.

Islam is an intolerant, supremacist belief system founded by an illiterate warrior, based upon barbaric values frozen in time. Its holy book refers to Jews and Christains as apes and pigs (or is that pigs and apes) and I especially get a kick out of the Quran's promise of 72 virgins in paradise for death as a warrior in the service of Allah for world domination. Islam is not a religion of peace. Whoever thinks that is totally ignorant of the most basic principles of Islam.

I am not a religious person, but I really don't like Islam and frankly, I can't understand why anyone would. Former Spanish PM, Aznar, tells it like it is in the Times editorial quoted in full above. Says he:
The West is going through a period of confusion over the shape of the world’s future. To a great extent, this confusion is caused by a kind of masochistic self-doubt over our own identity; by the rule of political correctness; by a multiculturalism that forces us to our knees before others; and by a secularism which, irony of ironies, blinds us even when we are confronted by jihadis promoting the most fanatical incarnation of their faith.
 
This thread has been hijacked by Darmanad who is justifying the most unjustifiable . I believe this was a tactic made famous by the Nazis and is called propaganda and is used to a higher degree today by the supporters of death and destruction.

1 Israeli is being held prisoner by Palestinians, while 7,383 Palestinians are currently imprisoned by Israel. (View Sources & More Information)
Demolitions of Israeli and Palestinian Homes
1967 - Present

0 Israeli homes have been demolished by Palestinians and 24,145 Palestinian homes have been demolished by Israel since 1967. (View Sources & More Information)

Current Israeli and Palestinian Unemployment RatesThe Israeli unemployment rate is 6.1%, while the Palestinian unemployment in the West Bank is 16.3% and 41.3% in Gaza. (View Sources & More Information)
Current Illegal Settlements on the Other’s Land
Israel currently has 223 Jewish-only settlements and ‘outposts’ built on confiscated Palestinian land. Palestinians do not have any settlements on Israeli land. (View Sources & More Information)
 
UN Resolutions Targeting Israel and the Palestinians
1955 - 1992

Israel has been targeted by at least 65 UN resolutions and the Palestinians have been targeted by none. (View Sources & More Information)
Current Number of Political Prisoners and Detainees
1 Israeli is being held prisoner by Palestinians, while 7,383 Palestinians are currently imprisoned by Israel. (View Sources & More Information)
Demolitions of Israeli and Palestinian Homes
1967 - Present

0 Israeli homes have been demolished by Palestinians and 24,145 Palestinian homes have been demolished by Israel since 1967. (View Sources & More Information)
 
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