uruguay cheats to win

Right wing crap ??

GTFO !!! I was about to call you soft. But seeing as you're a girl, your sentiments are to be expected.

mobri1130 said:
Sorry. You're absolutely right Choripán. I tend to lose my cool when I see someone from "LA" spouting right wing crap that should stay behind the Orange Curtain. :eek:

Vamos Argentina!! As for Uruguay...don't let the Vuvuzela hit you in the a** on the way out!
 
Choripán said:
Dude, I grew up in San Bernardino, that is, behind the brown curtain, so tread lightly!

Dude,

she's not a dude.

and lol @ san bernardino. Isn't that desert wasteland the murder capital of California ?
 
AlexfromLA said:
Isn't that desert wasteland the murder capital of California ?

You say that like it's a bad thing.

Actually, all those bodies are murdered in Los Angeles - which I believe is your home town, right? - and dumped in the vast, bleak deserts of San Bernardino *county* on the other side of the mountains. I have to admit, though, that growing up there was like eating a shit sandwich for lunch every day.

But even lowly San Berndardinans would not have used their hands to stop a goal in the final seconds of a World Cup match! Instead they would have smoked a bowl of crack and shot the Ghanan striker with a Glock 9 as he entered the goal box.
 
Did anyone watch the 120 minutes prior to the "last play"?

To say that Suarez "cheated" is a gross mis-characterization of the play and Uruguays game. The ball came in from a free kick outside the box, was headed down in the box and then volleyed toward the net. This first attempt was amazingly stopped by a player on the goalline with his feet/legs. It was then headed back on goal and an Uruguayan player tried to head it, and Suarez who was just behind the goalline inside the net blatantly used his hands to push the ball out. And in accordance with the rules, a red card was issued and a penalty kick given.

How is this any different than plays in which players deliberately take down guys in the box after they get beat? Have you watched International soccer, especially large tournaments like UEFA, or even the Super Classico? Suarez made no attempt to deny the infraction or hide his behavior. I also think it was a desperate, instinctual play (especially due to the sudden reactions) and not some pre-planned, conscious play, which is more what I think of when "cheating" is involved. (point shaving, or stealing signs in baseball, or using illegal equipment)

Ghana was awarded a penalty kick, which if taken well is unstoppable. (most saves are result of a bad kick not the goalies skill). They had more than fair opportunity to win the game. Given the options, if you asked a professional soccer player "if the other team "cheats" during the entire game, but at the end you could have a single penalty kick which will win the game", I would bet 99% of them would take it. And I don't even consider it "cheating". At the end of the day: Ghana missed. This is separate from Suarez's conduct, and certainly from the entire game.

Now the real issue I think the OP has with this game, (and one I have with this entire World Cup (and I have watched almost every game)), is the rules, rule decisions, and conflict resolution as dictated by FIFA. What could have been done in this case, as in Ice Hockey, is if an offensive player is about to score a goal on an "empty net" and a defenseman not the goalie throws his stick to block the puck, the goal is automatically awarded as opposed to a penalty shot. But this is an issue with the rules and NOT the morality of the players. Don't confuse the two.

This World Cup has shown that FIFA has failed to evolve with the sport, technology and athletes on the field. The game moves faster and with greater athletism and the rules, refs need to evolve. But the "Old Guard" in charge has no interest in doing that. They have been the winning teams in the past. Hopefully, now that this World Cup has exposed "old Guard" national teams as being Old School, perhaps the rules will catch up to the play on the field.

Ghana is a young squad (they won the U-20 World Cup against Brazil). They will be back and I will be cheering for them again.
 
hahaha.

Touché

Choripán said:
You say that like it's a bad thing.

Actually, all those bodies are murdered in Los Angeles - which I believe is your home town, right? - and dumped in the vast, bleak deserts of San Bernardino *county* on the other side of the mountains. I have to admit, though, that growing up there was like eating a shit sandwich for lunch every day.

But even lowly San Berndardinans would not have used their hands to stop a goal in the final seconds of a World Cup match! Instead they would have smoked a bowl of crack and shot the Ghanan striker with a Glock 9 as he entered the goal box.
 
Choripán said:
Totally shameful outcome in the Ghana-Uruguay game. The ball was in the box, and Uruguay stooped to the indignity of using hands to avoid a loss. How undignified and unsportsmanlike can you get? Ghana deserved to win that game - indeed, Ghana *did* win the game. Apparently the only way Uruguay can advance in World Cup is playing a game other than futbol, one that involves hands. And where does the cheating end? Do you plan on pulling out revolvers when Holland kicks your ass next week?

Uruguay, instead of celebrating tonight you should hang your heads in national disgrace

You are quite right Choripán, if that ball hit the back of the net Ghana should have won that game straight, but the hands of not only one but two Uruguayans players denied the outright victory for Ghana.

I mean, how fair is that?...doesn't matter if a red card and a penalty was given the fact still remain that Uruguay won by cheating and denying that goal and by doing so they went further on by sheer luck to qualify for the semifinals...not what I can call a fair play for the Ghanaians.
 
Lucas said:
I mean, how fair is that?...doesn't matter if a red card and a penalty was given the fact still remain that Uruguay won by cheating and denying that goal and by doing so they went further on by sheer luck to qualify for the semifinals...not what I can call a fair play for the Ghanaians.

I would disagree that Uruguay moved on only because of "sheer" luck. It was a well played game, and Uruguay won. The last stop that was "cheating" according to the name of this thread was what any player would have done in this situation.
 
Thank you A&A, it's nice to that at least one person understands what cheating is.

Plus, Ghana was awarded a PK for a total dive (gamesmanship bordering on CHEATING) in their 3rd game 4 years ago and ultimately won their game by one goal. So I took great pleasure in Ghana proving themselves to be losers.

Vamos Uruguay!!

Hup Oranje!!
 
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