We want dialogue! No, not here, not now!

[flowerpower]

you must have missed this post

anyway.



1: His post was very hard to understand and made no sense at all. I'm still not sure what his point is.
2: I asked him to post in Spanish so we all might have an idea what his point is.
3: His dialogue did not appear to be on the Falklands.
4: Constructive dialogue on the Falklands needs to take the people who live there into consideration. Something that is sadly lacking on the Argentine side





flowerpower or OutLaw

Hi Sccotty, how you doing? ... It seems that my post was a low punch for you. There is no doubt about that for chridt sake! Haha. To the extent that you took the trouble to inquire about my account and noticed that I have 2 accounts on the site. Although I'm afraid you missed the third account I use here, but it was still a good deed and I will not take credit! ... Right now you should aply to work for NASA or IBM perhaps. I'm sure they wouldn’t think twise with you . Although it seems that unfortunately there are some things where your sense of logic do not work very well, and I have to explain something that everyone knows: my first post in this topic was once the conversation had progressed. “And it is natural that sometimes the post to leave the central focus as it was in my case”
, where I only wrote in response to an earlier close. But the fact that a subject ends in other happened, happens and will happen always. Everyone here knows... but it seems that you dont.

 

[scotttswan]

It's not just the bad English..........................I give up!

I'm with you.

 

[flowerpower]

Well it seems I'm not the only one who should learn more about the English language then... .
Now, getting back to the initial issue. I got to say the following as a resume:
1-uk says that "the islanders want to still be british". In response of that I can say thats a poor excuse, because its the same if I ask to the people from Tierra del Fuego if they want to be british. Its obious that the would say "NO we still want to be Argentine". Anyway Argentina never asked about the nacionality of the islanders. We dont care what they want to be, they can belong to the Zulu tribu if they want. We only cares about our sovereignty on the islands.
2-Argentina only ask for dialogue as we were doing in 1974. But uk only refuses to do it, despite the UN resolution. It seems that anyone wich is down the US arms (as many others) can do whatever they want with the UN resolitions like to use them as toilet paper. What a joke.
3-Gordon not only refuse to dialogue, but he gibs intimidating messages like: "do not underestimate our power of determination". Thats the same as saying: "if you keep with this we can start a war". Just let me say if we are gonna start to talk in this way then we can say: "you should not underestimate our power of determination either" because although we cant possibly win, we can make a lot of damage and the British people suffer consequences of their threatening tone. Everybody knows that despite to the collaborations that uk received from US for pass over Arg they suffered serious consequences in the last facklands war. And im sure they should think about this twise before keep with this tone.

 

[LostinBA]

Give me one example of Argentina negotiating anything. Defaults, no. Bonds, no. New laws, no they are decrees. Trade, no all trade treaties have been reneged. Petroleum, stock aqusition, no just take it. Airlines, no just steal it. The Queen does not negotiate. In fact she is so bipolar that she can not concentrate long enough to negotiate anything [well, maybe the price of Botox].

Hey come on that's not fair. Argentina is going to negotiate in good faith in order to fairly recompense Spain for the YPF nationalization, right?

 

[solerboy]

1-uk says that "the islanders want to still be british". In response of that I can say thats a poor excuse, because its the same if I ask to the people from Tierra del Fuego if they want to be british. Its obious that the would say "NO we still want to be Argentine". Anyway Argentina never asked about the nacionality of the islanders. We dont care what they want to be, they can belong to the Zulu tribu if they want. We only cares about our sovereignty on the islands.

You havent really got the hang of what democracy is have you.

 

[flowerpower]

You havent really got the hang of what democracy is have you.

Of course I have it. An agreetmen btw Arg and uk about the rights of Arg over the islands doesnt mean that the islanders nessesary got to change their nacionality.

 

[solerboy]

Of course I have it. An agreetmen btw Arg and uk about the rights of Arg over the islands doesnt mean that the islanders nessesary got to change their nacionality.

And they could continue to use the currency of their choice ?

And would not have to pay taxes to Buenos Aires ?

And be free to make their own laws ?

And not be forced to speak Spanish and carry a DNI ?

You cant give Argentina rights without taking those rights away from the people who live there.

Its not about nationality is about freedom the choose your own government.

 

[flowerpower]

And they could continue to use the currency of their choice ?

And would not have to pay taxes to Buenos Aires ?

And be free to make their own laws ?

And not be forced to speak Spanish and carry a DNI ?

You cant give Argentina rights without taking those rights away from the people who live there.

Its not about nationality is about freedom the choose your own government.

Well I may say Im in desagree with you. I may say, YES you CAN make a deal btw both parts where the islanders keep the everything you told untouched.

 

[Mitch]

Then why you tellme about google translator?. Any way, I'll try another shot.
In a few words, I tryed to say that: in economy issues, california alone got the 5th economy in the world and the economys from englan, france, and those similar countrys can be seeing by the whole US economy as little puppis whaiting for their food.
Everybody knows that both countrys (fr and uk) as been saved for US in the 2nd world war: saved from the nazi bullets, and helped with a lot of money after the war. So, almost everything they got right now is doubt US. And as if this were not enough they got the **oversized** respect from US too.
I mean, many times I heard (coming from us voice) that the queen are the most powerfull person on the world. Come on, that is the same if a tell to my puppy: "you are the most powerfull being on this house, even than me".
Lets put the cards on the table. the "US president is the most powerfull person on the earth by far!". So, if there is some puppy that after be helped in many ways still receives oversized treatments for his master(us), then he should feel very lucky, and thanked.

Good post, and I understood it the first time.

This country´s sham of making this Falklands lunacy a subject of discussion seems to be working here.

They have not owned or controlled it since the 1820´s or 30´s.

Argentina claims to have rights as the result of proximity, does that give them rights to Chile and other bordering countries that would also loathe to be controlled by this corrupt country?

Before the drunk president started that war 30 years ago, few in Britain even knew they existed. Britain´s government was looking to dump them as they were nothing but an expense.

Nestor was given a chance to split half the oil, he replied something to the effect why should we split what´s ours.

The fun part of living amongst this insanity, is none of us can say we are in a rut!

 

[jp]

I beg to differ. The Malvinas/Falklands issue is also very important to the British people.

The more you repeat this line, the more clueless you sound.