Another Mass Shooting In The Us...

[scotttswan]

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http://dailycaller.c...ontrol-mistake/

What a stupid article.

Between July 1 1997 and 30 June 1999 nine in ten offenders of firearm-related homicide were unlicensed firearm owners.

Who cares, gun deaths dropped.

In Australia, annual deaths resulting from firearms31 total

2014: 230
2013: 208
2012: 226
2011: 188
2010: 232
2009: 226
2008: 231
2007: 231
2006: 242
2005: 220
2004: 241
2003: 289
2002: 292
2001: 326
2000: 324
1999: 347
1998: 312
1997: 428
1996: 516
1995: 470
1994: 516
1993: 513
1992: 608
1991: 618
1990: 595
1989: 549
1988: 674
1987: 694
1986: 677
1985: 682
1984: 675
1983: 644
1982: 689
1981: 618
1980: 687
1979: 685
CompareRate of All Gun Deaths per 100,000 People
ChartIn Australia, the annual rate of all gun deaths31 per 100,000 population is

2014: 1.02
2013: 0.93
2012: 1.03
2011: 0.86
2010: 1.08
2009: 1.06
2008: 1.10
2007: 1.11
2006: 1.18
2005: 1.09
2004: 1.21
2003: 1.46
2002: 1.49
2001: 1.69
2000: 1.70
1999: 1.84
1998: 1.68
1997: 2.32
1996: 2.84
1995: 2.61
1994: 2.90
1993: 2.91
1992: 3.49
1991: 3.59
1990: 3.51
1989: 3.29
1988: 4.11
1987: 4.30
1986: 4.26
1985: 4.35
1984: 4.35
1983: 4.20
1982: 4.54
1981: 4.14
1980: 4.70
1979: 3.29
http://www.gunpolicy...egion/australia

Raw data from the Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS) reveals that while suicide by firearms is continuing to decrease from a high in the 1980s, suicide by hanging steadily increased throughout the 1990s and increased for three consecutive years after the 1996 buy-back

The suicide rate increased overall, they have since dropped.

In the year 2002/2003, over 85% of firearms used to commit murder were unregistered. Recent legislation introduced by all states further strengthened controls on access to legitimate handguns by sporting shooters.

The AIC’s ‘Homicide in Australia: 2006-07 National Homicide Monitoring Program annual report’ stated that 93 per cent of firearms involved in homicides had never been registered and were used by unlicensed individuals.

Who the fuck cares if they were registered or not, gun deaths dropped drastically and this is obviously because guns are no longer as readily available as they were in Australian society.

he odd thing about gun control is that a culture of censorship often increases after anti-gun laws fail to deliver. So, it would be hard for an Australian writer to submit a piece on Switzerland’s pro-gun ownership culture and low gun crime rate because our media isn’t “ready” to accept opposing views. Only a “thought control” culture can sustain a “gun control” culture.

•Nearly every male in Switzerland goes through firearm training at the age of 20.
•Swiss males are allowed to keep their firearms after the end of their military service at age 30. The fully automatic weapons must be converted to semi automatic before they can keep them as civilians.
•Switzerland has universal gun registration on gun ownership.
•Switzerland has universal background checks on all gun purchases.
•Switzerland requires universal reporting of firearm transactions, whether commercial or private transfer of ownership.
•Switzerland's carry laws are highly regulated and very restricted. Other than militia members transporting their firearms on their way to militia training, very few people are allowed to actually carry firearms. And they cannot be loaded.
•Despite the militia requirement in Switzerland, the rate of gun ownership (by percentage) in the United States is much higher than in Switzerland.
•Males between 20 and 30 years of age are required to own firearms in Switzerland because they are the nation's well regulated milita. Switzerland has no standing army. It is their civilian militia (much like the intent of the American 2nd amendment) that defends their nation against foreign aggression.
•The vast majority of militia members are not even allowed to store ammo at home. And for the 2000 or so--that's right only 2000--militia members who do have ammo, it is sealed and inspected regularly.
•Switzerland's gun violence rate is fourth highest in the world. Surprised?

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/2/28/1190586/-Some-Truth-About-Switzerland-and-Guns

 

[scotttswan]

some more interesting graphs on Switzerland and the USA

 

[gpop]

ejcot en argentina:
Maybe that's because Canada (35 million) doesn't have "nearly" the population the U.S (330 milion) has.
However,if you read that article,it'd appear that they are catching up.

woha there... hold on a minute. Canada also gets something else from the US, it's media. Most Canadian cities are fairly close to US borders and catch US broadcast (nevermind the cable content) that rife with dacades of hollywood glorified violence. Canadians are not the same as US Americans, but over time, some of this stuff is bound to rub off - especially for generations of kids growing up with the sence of entitelment (but nowhere near the income) of their US counterpart. You can quote numbers, but that says nothing about the population density of any given Canadian city, and other factors driving violent crime in that area.
I wager that a smaller city like Winnipeg (663,615 (2011)) is much more violent than Toronto (2.615 million (2011)) so just by population you argument does not hold water. There is another factor...and if i knew what that was exactly, then I'd still be living in Winnipeg, and I'd be a hero.

http://www.immigroup...lent-crime-rate

Her's another though... Canada is nowhere near so medicated as the US. You don't see any ads on Canadian TV for pharmaceutical head-drugs as you do in the US... just saying.

 

[wineguy999]

Carrying a gun won't stop violence either. The most recent shootings weren't carried out by criminals, but people who legally obtained guns.

Where in my comment did I say anything about carrying a gun?

Like it or not, most shootings are carried out by criminals.

 

[thorsten]

Where in my comment did I say anything about carrying a gun?

Like it or not, most shootings are carried out by criminals.

Just like most mass killings/school shootings are carried out by lunatics who can legally buy their assault rifle and go hunting people...

 

[steveinbsas]

When this was posted yesterday:

Look at Europe and Asia. Gun control and no random acts of gun violence.

This had happened earlier:

Jo Cox MP dead after shooting attack

http://www.bbc.com/n...ngland-36550304

If you want to argue the shooting was not "random" I will agree, but the Orlando attack was not "random" either.

Nor were the shootings at Sandy Hook, San Bernadino, or Fort Hood, all of which were "gun free zones" (where it is illegal to carry a gun).

 

[Noesdeayer]

gpop:
I agree most of that Hollywood stuff is pure schlock.Change the channel or pick up a book
I believe that there was a law in Canada that mandated that x% of TV or music content had to be Canadian but I don't know if it's still on the books.
It is also quite possible that Canadians are also less materialistic than people in the U.S..I wouldn't doubt that.

 

[scotttswan]

When this was posted yesterday:




This had happened earlier:

Jo Cox MP dead after shooting attack

http://www.bbc.com/n...ngland-36550304

If you want to argue the shooting was not "random" I will agree, but the Orlando attack was not "random" either.

Nor were the shootings at Sandy Hook, San Bernadino, or Fort Hood, all of which were "gun free zones" (where it is illegal to carry a gun).

Only he had to make his own gun, thankfully it's hard to make fast firing semi automatics, otherwise he could easily have killed multiple people in a rampage shooting.

Gun control at work!

A gentleman with a bald head in his 50s got very close and he lunged forward and stabbed him straight in the stomach, and tried to reload his gun to shoot people nearby again but people were sort of trying to surround him.

 

[scotttswan]

The reason why the UK has such strict rules.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunblane_school_massacre

Andy Murray was at this school at the time and could easily have been murdered too.

 

[scotttswan]

You all know what happened when another nut did something similar in the USA

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabrielle_Giffords

She was critically injured by a gunshot wound to the head;[6][7] a total of thirteen people were injured and six others were killed in the shooting, among them federal judge John Roll and a 9-year-old child, Christina-Taylor Green.

It could easily have included another innocent.

[background=rgb(240, 243, 252)]But before we embrace Zamudio's brave intervention as proof of the value of being armed, let's hear the whole story. "I came out of that store, I clicked the safety off, and I was ready," he explained on Fox and Friends. "I had my hand on my gun. I had it in my jacket pocket here. And I came around the corner like this." Zamudio demonstrated how his shooting hand was wrapped around the weapon, poised to draw and fire. As he rounded the corner, he saw a man holding a gun. "And that's who I at first thought was the shooter," Zamudio recalled. "I told him to 'Drop it, drop it!' "[/background]
[background=rgb(240, 243, 252)]But the man with the gun wasn't the shooter. He had wrested the gun away from the shooter.[/background]

http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/human_nature/2011/01/friendly_firearms.html


If a nutcase tries to kill people near me, i'd much rather he had to build the shitty weapon himself rather than have a semi automatic handgun etc.