Argentine women are the only thing I really don't like in Argentina.

[SecretShopper]

Has it ever occurred to you that women may have a real goal? That they are driven by something completely different, that has very little to do with you?

That really isn't that relevant. If anything that makes it even worse. My point of contention is that the women I meet play games, never stick to agreed upon plans, and then act surprised when you cut them off. In what way does them having a "real goal" make that acceptable?

 

[BostonBucket]

Has it ever occurred to you that women may have a real goal? That they are driven by something completely different, that has very little to do with you?

Of course Alby, this guy isn't demanding that women revolve around his interests, he's simply telling this forum about his previous experiences.

 

[BostonBucket]

That really isn't that relevant. If anything that makes it even worse. My point of contention is that the women I meet play games, never stick to agreed upon plans, and then act surprised when you cut them off. In what way does them having a "real goal" make that acceptable?

I wouldn't go as far as to say that it isn't acceptable, it's simply a difference in practice between you and them. They like playing these games, and it's what they are used to doing with men who also like playing the game. When they are faced with someone who doesn't partake, they are surprised, you could use this as an advantage though, often times, when you are the only one not feeding her game, you are the only one that interests her.

 

[Alby]

If something is unacceptable to us (like, for example, never sticking to plans, acting surprised at being cut off) that is because we believe it breaks the rules of the game. But that assumes two people are playing the same game. Now, if two people are playing two different games (and that is clearly the case if one has a goal and the other does not), then there are no rules. Anything goes.

(Separately, I think one of the reasons people don't stick to plans anymore--anywhere, not just Argentina--is because of the advent of instant communication via cell phones. Once upon a time, people had to stick to agreements, because there was no way to get in touch with the other person to change them. Since smart phones came in, it is much easier to agree to plan that we aren't really that keen on or committed to, or leave a plan a bit vague, because it can be instantly renegotiated with the other party right up to the originally appointed hour.)

 

[SecretShopper]

I wouldn't go as far as to say that it isn't acceptable, it's simply a difference in practice between you and them. They like playing these games, and it's what they are used to doing with men who also like playing the game. When they are faced with someone who doesn't partake, they are surprised, you could use this as an advantage though, often times, when you are the only one not feeding her game, you are the only one that interests her.

You make great points. But then I know myself and I know my very stubborn ways lol. Once I say I'm done with a person then I am done. And it appear that once they figure out that I'm not playing the game then some start reacting different. But at that point it's already game over. And sure that part is on me. But "games" are a pet peeve of mine.

 

[SecretShopper]

If something is unacceptable to us (like, for example, never sticking to plans, acting surprised at being cut off) that is because we believe it breaks the rules of the game. But that assumes two people are playing the same game. Now, if two people are playing two different games (and that is clearly the case if one has a goal and the other does not), then there are no rules. Anything goes.

(Separately, I think one of the reasons people don't stick to plans anymore--anywhere, not just Argentina--is because of the advent of instant communication via cell phones. Once upon a time, people had to stick to agreements, because there was no way to get in touch with the other person to change them. Since smart phones came in, it is much easier to agree to plan that we aren't really that keen on or committed to, or leave a plan a bit vague, because it can be instantly renegotiated with the other party right up to the originally appointed hour.)

You're right that it exists everywhere, but as I mentioned, it appears to be a much higher percentage here. I know we can say it's only been 12... but it's been literally every one of them. I wouldn't say that I'm playing a game just because I don't have a defined goal.

 

[nikad]

Maybe the OP would feel more at ease in Asia. This being said, in general when everybody else is the problem, well usually you are.

 

[Alby]

You're good at setting goals. You set a clear one for yourself: to get a second passport. Although your strategy to get to that goal is a little lacking in detail (you left certain things to work out only once you got here), at broad level it is quite reasonable (e.g., enroll in a course, get a residency, try to turn that into citizenship). Since you are good at setting goals, try and set one for your dating. Once you have it clear, ask yourself where you will find females that have the same goal. And go find them. That's when all this puzzling behaviour from them will end. It's probably a better approach than trying to find non-Argentine women in Argentina.

(Failing that, discard your own conceptual framework when trying to understand the puzzling behaviour of the other gender. Whilst you cannot take on the conceptual framework of the other gender, it is sufficient to simply be aware that is both different from yours and inaccessible to you. Once we stop trying to understand the behaviour of the other gender through our own prism (whether we are male or female), life becomes a lot easier.)

 

[Bajo_cero2]

I'm going to go ahead and do what we are taught not to do... judge everyone equally bad. After two months I can really give my opinion and say that Argentine women are the absolute worst on the planet. Now I'll admit that this is based on how I am and what I would consider as completely incompatible.

The bottom line is that Argentine women play too many games and want to be chased. Now obviously there are women like that all over the world but it appears that it's a much higher percentage here. My sample size is about 12 women and I cut communication within 2 weeks on all of them.

The absolute least reliable when it comes to sticking to a plan. If you both agree to do something, 90 percent chance it won't actually happen for whatever reason. It seems like they all have a fishing pole and attempt to dangle bait, and when you don't go for the bait and cut them off for different reasons (terrible communication, lack of ability to meet), you get a message a couple weeks later asking what happened and why they can no longer see your profile picture on WhatsApp lol.

Most times I ignore them but a few times I responded with something to the likes of "your a cool person but after attempting to invite you out a time or 2 and it went nowhere." The responses were "oh so you didn't think I was worth enough to keep insisting?"... "men need to be able to persist until they get what they want"... and something else similar that I don't remember.

This isn't a thread about sex but I'll bring it into it.. From my experience, if anything is going to happen, it has to be in the moment where you first meet her. And even after, if you think there will be less games because you had sex.. nooope.. same shit. And when you stop communicating, then you get a text about how all you wanted was sex.

One would constantly send pictures to remind me that she exist but could never successfully get on the schedule. I don't see how men can date Argentine women. Thankfully, there are Colombians, Venezuelans, and Brazilians to save the day lol.

Well, perhaps they do not like to feel or to be treated like escorts. Colombians, Venezuelans and Brazilians women are the nowadays nationality of escorts here. My father used ro say that you do not look for a bride at a Cabaret.

 

[SecretShopper]

You're good at setting goals. You set a clear one for yourself: to get a second passport. Although your strategy to get to that goal is a little lacking in detail (you left certain things to work out only once you got here), at broad level it is quite reasonable (e.g., enroll in a course, get a residency, try to turn that into citizenship). Since you are good at setting goals, try and set one for your dating. Once you have it clear, ask yourself where you will find females that have the same goal. And go find them. That's when all this puzzling behaviour from them will end. It's probably a better approach than trying to find non-Argentine women in Argentina.

(Failing that, discard your own conceptual framework when trying to understand the puzzling behaviour of the other gender. Whilst you cannot take on the conceptual framework of the other gender, it is sufficient to simply be aware that is both different from yours and inaccessible to you. Once we stop trying to understand the behaviour of the other gender through our own prism (whether we are male or female), life becomes a lot easier.)

I think you're really overcomplicating this. I'm not going to put a plan together to figure out how to date Argentine women. And I'm not going to change how I am. This is why I keep using the word "mismatch." I'm not going to change and neither are the women here. Therefore, we are simply not a match. Which means it makes more sense to focus on other women.