Germanwings Crash In Alps

[johnw100]

Sorry did not notice. Mine came from reading MS news despite. We are all in this praying for the lost souls. So who wrote it first is irrelevant me thinks.

Fair enough, wasnt anything about being first. Just it was strikingly similar to what i`d written off the top of my head.

 

[sesamosinsal]

The problem is not the strolling around the cabin. The problem is the impenetrable door policy. That was one (of many) stupid knee jerk reaction from 9/11. And like every stupid knee jerk reaction, eventually it catches up with you.

How is that stupid? To me, it seems like a perfectly reasonable policy, and one that I hope they continue. According to reports I've read, in the U.S. a flight attendant replaces a pilot if he/she leaves the cockpit. (This was news to me because I thought that pilots couldn't leave the cockpit for any reason once the flight was in the air, and that they had bathrooms in the cockpit -- call me naive!) There's only so much that can be done to prevent something like this; however, perhaps if U.S. regulations had been followed, 150 people would still be alive.

 

[garryl]

Maybe the pilots being able to lock the door and not let anybody in isn't such a great idea after all.

I also don't understand why pilots have to get out of their seats at all. A bus driver doesn't get up and take a walk - especially on a short flight the pilots should stay in their seats.

He went out to take a leak. No one can sit for that long.

 

[Ceviche]

We should lock up Crema Americana in a room. Feed her/him with food and drinks and not let her use the toilet up to 6 hours.

 

[GS_Dirtboy]

Something just doesn't add up with this accident. If I were the co-pilot and I wanted to deliberately crash the aircraft what I would not do is to use the autopilot and put the jet on a steady, controlled decent into terrain that took 8 minutes while the Captain is trying to break through the door. In my mind there would always be a chance he would get through the door and interfere with my plan. Why risk that? I would lock the Captain out of the cockpit, roll the aircraft inverted, and dive the jet nose-first into the ground. Would take about 2 1/2 minutes from 38,000 feet but more importantly the increase in speed would begin to rip parts off of the aircraft long before I neared the ground ensuring I succeeded in my goal.

If we consider that this co-pilot was committed enough to die to watch the ground coming at him through the windscreen for 8 minutes and do nothing then we can assume he was very committed to dying. Why would he risk failure? Yes, I understand the doors are "impenetrable," but still it is a sloppy plan. It just doesn't fit for me.

 

[nkotb]

GS: I take it you have an alternative theory?

 

[Ceviche]

Why would he risk failure? Yes, I understand the doors are "impenetrable," but still it is a sloppy plan. It just doesn't fit for me.

When one is on a death wish, the mind is not exactly working at 100% efficiency!

 

[GS_Dirtboy]

When one is on a death wish, the mind is not exactly working at 100% efficiency!

I would disagree, sir. Interviews with people who failed at suicide indicate that many were, if anything, hyperaware and very clear of what they were doing.

The only alternative theory I can come up with is that the co-pilot had a brain bleed or something. That would require quite the timing coincidence. A very wild theory is a stowaway in the cockpit. Haven't been on the flight deck of this jet so I don't know if that is physically possible. Even then the struggle would be heard on the CVR.

All I am saying at this point is that the accusation doesn't entirely fit the evidence.

 

[GS_Dirtboy]

Further info that doesn't make sense; data from the aircraft transponder says that the autopilot was manually re-set to 100 feet within 2 seconds of attaining cruise altitude. We don't know when the Captain left the cockpit to go the head but in EVERY single situation I have been in like that (hundreds and hundreds) the pilot that needs to go waits until the aircraft is stable at cruise altitude. It is an unspoken rule. You don't leave until you have stable flight. If that happened in this case then the Captain would have been in the cockpit still and would have felt the altitude change even if he didn't see the autopilot being reset.

We are still missing something.

 

[scotttswan]

It will be interesting to see if he did reset the door open request or if the captain forgot the number.