"Leaving America"

[Lucas]

Mmmm....not quite, Lucas. The US is not the only country that does not regard America as one giant continent. Since you're such a fan of Wikipedia, see for yourself: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continent


The seven-continent model is usually taught in China and most English-speaking countries.

The six-continent combined-Eurasia model is preferred by the geographic community, the former states of the USSR (including Russia), and Japan.

The six-continent combined-America model is taught in Latin America, and some parts of Europe, including Greece[citation needed], Italy[citation needed], Portugal and Spain. This model may be taught to include only the five inhabited continents (excluding Antarctica)[20][21] — as depicted in the Olympic logo.[23]

The terms Oceania or Australasia are sometimes substituted for Australia. For example, the Atlas of Canada names Oceania,[14] as does the model taught in Latin America and Iberia.[24]

C'mon Steve that is a biased Wikipedia page, do you see, there is a en.wikipedia at the beginning of the web link, that means it's a 'biased' English language info page therefor the context is somehow kind of deceit to say at least.

Same info as Cheng got from the text books he/she probably read at school of some bilingual country in the Far East...not here we got our own books written in castillan and that bias do not exist yet, touch wood.

 

[bsas]

Yes! The continent argument!! Gotta get some popcorn and sit back and enjoy.

Words have different meanings in different languages, and even in different countries that speak the same language. I could have gone on using the Puerto Rican term 'cogelo suave', and then loudly complaining that Argentines have it all wrong when they look at me weird. Or maybe I could just accept the fact that its just a word, and enjoy the differences in language and style.

Personally, if I met someone from, say, Colombia traveling in Europe, and was interested about where they were from, and they said 'America', I'd quickly move on to the next person.

 

[steveinbsas]

Lucas (and all of the other Américans who haunt this site),

If I was an Argentine filmmaker and wanted to choose a title for a movie about Argentine residents moving to the USA, which of the following titles do you think bests conveys that theme to potential Argentine aduiences?

Adiós Argentina or Adiós América?

If I used the later I think my audience would leave the theater shaking their heads and the critics would enjoy bashing the title.

 

[studiodio]

wow ariel! you just got a taste of the great tangents this forum seems to foster! My husband and I moved here two years ago from USA.....he is 64 and I am 63(so we are beyond the demographic you talked about)....we moved here primarily for political and artistic reasons.....and we have never regretted our move...good luck on resettling, jamye and dave smith

 

[Lucas]

Well, what about Ariel Enrique Wapnir project?... will be it called "Leaving America" or "Leaving the USSR"

 

[steveinbsas]

Well, what about Ariel Enrique Wapnir project?... will be it called "Leaving America" or "Leaving the USSR"

Now you're getting silly.

 

[Lucas]

I mean now that some are arguing about Obama's socialist state it will be some kind of appropriate...I think.

 

[gouchobob]

Media matters is your source?

Doesn't Soros give money to media matters?

I watch Glenn Beck almost every evening. One thing he is not is anti-semitic...or even bordering on it.

From the Media Matters link:

"Beck: Soros controls the economy

Beck cited anti-Semitic smear that Soros pursued a Jewish "agenda" to collapse Southeast Asian currencies. On the October 5, 2010, edition of his Fox News show, Beck continued his smear campaign against George Soros, saying that "many, including the Malaysian prime minister, believe it was billionaire speculator George Soros who helped trigger the [Southeast Asian] economic meltdown" in 1997, a reference to former Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad's false and anti-Semitic claim that Soros was part of a Jewish "agenda" to collapse Southeast Asian currencies. In an October 10, 1997, report from the Malaysian newspaper Berita Harian (excerpted by BBC Summary of World Broadcasts, accessed via Nexis), Mahathir was quoted as saying: "We do not want to say that this is a plot by the Jews, but in reality it is a Jew who triggered the currency plunge, and coincidentally Soros is a Jew. It is also a coincidence that the Malaysians are mostly Muslim."

Note that it was Media Matters that said Beck cited an anti-semetic smear. Beck did not say that Soros was part of a Jewish plot. That was said by former Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad. Beck did say, as Media Matters quotes, "many, including the Malaysian prime minister, believe it was billionaire speculator George Soros who helped trigger the [Southeast Asian] economic meltdown." If Soros participated in the collapse of the currency (as Soros himself acknowledges proudly) it doesn't make Beck anti-semitic to quote either Soros or PM Mahathir Mohamad. Even if Mahathir is anti-semetic, that is completely irrelevant to the actual actions of Soros.

If you are going to assert that most of what comes out of Beck's mouth is untrue why can't you give us a few examples of his lies?

Perhaps we can start here: Was Beck lying when he said that Soros desires a New World Order without nations or that Soros advocates an "orderly decline of the dollar?" What do you think QE2 is all about? Where do you think it will lead if not to greater inflation and a dramatic increase in the price of food and clothing, just as Beck predicts? Is Beck lying or just being a fear monger?

If most of what he says is untrue we have nothing to worry about, right?

I don't waste my time watching Beck, he's not a serious journalist and Fox is not a credible news organization. From what little I've seen and read Beck's diatribes are packed with innuendo, half-truths, and out and out falsehoods. A good example of his distortions are when he accused Soros of being a Nazi sympathizer. Really a repugnant and ridiculous charge as Soros was just 13 at the time. The following article discusses this in more detail.

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Electi...at-s-with-Glenn-Beck-s-fascination-with-Nazis

 

[Rad]

The American ruling class is creating the conditions for an explosion from below that all its servants in the political establishment, the trade unions and the media will be unable to prevent. The most urgent task facing working people is to make the necessary preparations to give the coming movement a revolutionary political character. This means the building of the Socialist Equality Party.

I hate the communists / socialists and their crap. 100 million people murdered by them and another 25 million killed by the other socialists (the "National Socialists"). And it looks like they still haven't had enough!

 

[Lucas]

I hate the communists / socialists and their crap. 100 million people murdered by them and another 25 million killed by the other socialists (the "National Socialists"). And it looks like they still haven't had enough!

Yes me too, it happens here in the 1970's 30.000 people vanished, tortured and killed but from a opposite ideology....fascism. Do you know how many more millions die in fascist Germany?....and they still haven't had enough too!