"Leaving America"

steveinbsas said:
What anti-intellectual or facist propaganda are you talking about? What do you really know about my political ideology from my counterpoint to those who have labeled Glenn Back anti-semitic without even watching his program to see and hear his comments in context?.

George Soros himself is the one who proposes a New World Order and a One World Government and an ordered devaluation of the dollar. What do you think QE2 is all about?

Glenn Beck didn't fabricate anything he said about George Soros and Soros isn't shy about who he is, what he's done, or what he wants for the world.

I suggest that you watch Glenn beck for yourself and see how well he supports his statements. If you think he is lying about or exaggerating anything please report back to us instead of making comments about me, which is the epitome of being anti-intellectual.
Someone who is a devotee of Beck (listening to him regularly) is anti - intellectual by definition. Beck is info-entertainment.

Did Soros "order" a devaluation of the dollar? I recently bought gold stocks because I think the dollar will fall and cause turmoil in the markets. Does tht make me a fascist?

To the extent Beck implies Soros has a Fascist agenda, he is absurd. To use the Soros' statement about his observation as a youth as evidence of fascist leanings on his part is nonsensical and deceptive. For you to buy into Beck on this and much else of the Tea Party agenda is revealing.

In another thread I asked you to define your positions on domestic and foreign policy and you remain mute. I reinvite you to do so.
 
No need to say the whole "estadunidiense", "shanki" fits perfectly the function :p
 
Rad said:
But if someone openly promotes communist/socialist ideas ("revolution", socialist version of "equality"), then it is not recognized as evil by most despite the fact that the ideology has failed every time in the past when it was tried and resulted in millions of deaths.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_model

The horror!
 
cabrera said:
The USA is a fascist state that has caused more sufferings and wars than any other empire in human history . They have actively supported dictatorships in Argentina and all of South America that have contributed to the deaths of millions of people .

Being proud of the USA is the ultimate in hypocrisy.


Welcome back, Cabrera. I see your time away was well spent studying US and world history.:rolleyes:

This thread has absolutely nothing to do with being proud to be American.

Perhaps you would like to predict the next war the US will cause.

Predicting wars is one of your specialties, isn't it?:p
 
jp said:
So? Those are countries that steal half or more of productive people's income to feed hordes of welfare leeches and state bureaucrats. Conveniently close to Germany, trading with the US, living from the past successes of their creative capitalists. They realize very well that they need the productive capitalists, despite the rhetoric of their model.

However, the "revolutionary" bullshit promoted by WSWS and windy is closer to other socialist success stories - Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy.
 
It's an argument IMO not worth wasting energy on. I'm an Argentine and I do see Argentina as an American country (just as France is a European country), because I see America as a full continent and the three "Americas" as subdivisions that may have been created for organizational purposes , but the bottom line is that the USA became known as America and I don't think it hurts anyone.

Back to the topic, It's a very interesting project. Good luck!
 
Hache said:
It's an argument IMO not worth wasting energy on. I'm an Argentine and I do see Argentina as an American country (just as France is a European country), because I see America as a full continent and the three "Americas" as subdivisions that may have been created for organizational purposes , but the bottom line is that the USA became known as America and I don't think it hurts anyone.

Back to the topic, It's a very interesting project. Good luck!

If we follow your definition, France is an american country as well, since some of its territory is located on the american continent (Guyane, french islands in the caraibs). If you follow a cultural pattern, the whole american continent is European except Paraguay, since all official languages are european except Guarani.

Nothing is simple is this globalized world :p
 
cabrera said:
The USA is a fascist state that has caused more sufferings and wars than any other empire in human history . They have actively supported dictatorships in Argentina and all of South America that have contributed to the deaths of millions of people .

Being proud of the USA is the ultimate in hypocrisy.


Please check your definition for fascist state. The USA is FAR from being one. Yes, they have supported dictatorships (directly or indirectly), but you can't blame it on the American people. During my college years in the USA, I met LOTS of Americans who condemned such deeds, and let me add I didn't meet a SINGLE American who approved them. And you say they caused more suffering and wars than any other empire (something the USA isn't -check your definition for empire-)? Please show me your statistics.



darmanad said:
Speaking of hypocrisy, didn't you swear you would close your account if Iran was not invaded by Israel/US before the beginning of Oct? Why are you breaking your solemn vow, you hypocrit. Was the urge to post an inflammatory non-sequitor too great for your weak constitution to withstand? Go back to your cave and don't come out until you learn how to make sense when you write.


Do you mean the Argentine Constitution? Our Constitution isn't weak, darmanad. In fact, I don't think it's very different from the American Constitution. It's just for some reason we choose to ignore it completely. Go figure...
 
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