Odd how the US media is barely covering this story...

marksoc said:
As we say in this country, "Clarin" is a good newspaper to wrap the eggs in the supermarket or start your asado (this is not a new phrase).

Probably the eggs will go off and the asado will be poisoned with the fumes...don't do it. :D

I can't tell you how glad I am that Latin American countries are fighting back against U.S.

Psyops, black ops and dirty dealings of every kind. Examples...

--rightwing disinformation campaigns, with the USAID funding faux NGOs (rightwing political organizing groups) and covertly funding rightwing journalists in Venezuela: Venezuela's legislature banned foreign money from the NGOs; don't know what they can do about journalists except to require disclosure and go after them if they're caught lying. (FOIAI requests here come back with all the names redacted, as if the rightwing journalists that the U.S. is funding in Venezuela is a U.S. national security matter.)

--the U.S. embassy funding/organizing a white separatist insurrection in Bolivia in 2008: Evo Morales threw the U.S. ambassador out of the country, with the backing, through UNASUR, of every country in South America; they worked together to defeat that coup against the hugely popular Morales.

--Morales ejecting the DEA, for spying and collusion with the white separatists; Morales' government then legalized the coca leaf (innocent medicinal leaf like marijuana)--to screams of anguish from the corrupt U.S. "war on drugs" establishment.

--Brazil's Lula da Silva absolutely refusing to play the U.S. "divide and conquer" game against Venezuela and rallying the opposition to the U.S. coup d'etat in Honduras.

And now Argentina has caught the U.S. with its pants down, importing guns and drugs that were likely headed to disruption/destabilization groups, or was it just U.S. corruption, which I have little doubt has become endemic in U.S. military/police-state operations in Latin America, as it certainly is in Iraq and Afghanistan?

Based on various spot studies that have been done, I would guess that half--HALF!--of the U.S. tax dollars appropriated for U.S. military operations and military aid around the world are corrupt. So we may be talking about up a trillion dollars just fucking stolen--stolen outright, stolen in goods, stolen by 'contractors' who do nothing, stolen by vastly inflated budgets for doing nothing, stolen for bogus operations like the U.S. "war on drugs" that haven't put even a dent in the hard drug trade, stolen by non-"reconstruction" in Iraq or Afghanistan, stolen every which way, by virtually everybody involved.

I'm glad that Latin American countries are getting vigilant because our government certainly is not. It is run by war profiteers who write their own tickets into our pocketbooks and write their own laws. And we, of course, have been prevented from having anything to say about it by ES&S/Diebold. Congress is a joke (one of the main purposes of the 'TRADE SECRET' voting machines). And President Obama either doesn't know, or can't do anything about it (simply has no power vs the war profiteers), or is swamped with other priorities, or (I hope not) doesn't care. I have to laugh at the budget cutting, currently going on. If they would simply cut the 50% or more fluff and bullshit out of the budgets of every private contractor leeching off the federal government, they could probably put the country in the black.

Go, Argentina! Go, Latin America! And do cherish and protect your democracies!

<all here>
 
2. Argentina is the self-conscious aging starlet jealous of the new hot thing rising up from the chorus (Brazil), and they are bitter, petty and scared.



Hilarious..beautifully contrived comparison, thanks for the humor to end my day!
 
Lucas said:
...or maybe you are, did you think of that?... no you don't how you could it be...right?

So clever as a ghost...why didn't you think of that?...because you are...not
What? Read your line.
 
Lucas said:
Probably the eggs will go off and the asado will be poisoned with the fumes...don't do it. :D

I can't tell you how glad I am that Latin American countries are fighting back against U.S.

Psyops, black ops and dirty dealings of every kind. Examples...

--rightwing disinformation campaigns, with the USAID funding faux NGOs (rightwing political organizing groups) and covertly funding rightwing journalists in Venezuela: Venezuela's legislature banned foreign money from the NGOs; don't know what they can do about journalists except to require disclosure and go after them if they're caught lying. (FOIAI requests here come back with all the names redacted, as if the rightwing journalists that the U.S. is funding in Venezuela is a U.S. national security matter.)

--the U.S. embassy funding/organizing a white separatist insurrection in Bolivia in 2008: Evo Morales threw the U.S. ambassador out of the country, with the backing, through UNASUR, of every country in South America; they worked together to defeat that coup against the hugely popular Morales.

--Morales ejecting the DEA, for spying and collusion with the white separatists; Morales' government then legalized the coca leaf (innocent medicinal leaf like marijuana)--to screams of anguish from the corrupt U.S. "war on drugs" establishment.

--Brazil's Lula da Silva absolutely refusing to play the U.S. "divide and conquer" game against Venezuela and rallying the opposition to the U.S. coup d'etat in Honduras.

And now Argentina has caught the U.S. with its pants down, importing guns and drugs that were likely headed to disruption/destabilization groups, or was it just U.S. corruption, which I have little doubt has become endemic in U.S. military/police-state operations in Latin America, as it certainly is in Iraq and Afghanistan?

Based on various spot studies that have been done, I would guess that half--HALF!--of the U.S. tax dollars appropriated for U.S. military operations and military aid around the world are corrupt. So we may be talking about up a trillion dollars just fucking stolen--stolen outright, stolen in goods, stolen by 'contractors' who do nothing, stolen by vastly inflated budgets for doing nothing, stolen for bogus operations like the U.S. "war on drugs" that haven't put even a dent in the hard drug trade, stolen by non-"reconstruction" in Iraq or Afghanistan, stolen every which way, by virtually everybody involved.

I'm glad that Latin American countries are getting vigilant because our government certainly is not. It is run by war profiteers who write their own tickets into our pocketbooks and write their own laws. And we, of course, have been prevented from having anything to say about it by ES&S/Diebold. Congress is a joke (one of the main purposes of the 'TRADE SECRET' voting machines). And President Obama either doesn't know, or can't do anything about it (simply has no power vs the war profiteers), or is swamped with other priorities, or (I hope not) doesn't care. I have to laugh at the budget cutting, currently going on. If they would simply cut the 50% or more fluff and bullshit out of the budgets of every private contractor leeching off the federal government, they could probably put the country in the black.

Go, Argentina! Go, Latin America! And do cherish and protect your democracies!

<all here>

Lucas, keep posting, although most of what you do is complete nonsense in my opinion. I remember once reading about how people in Argentina tend to engage in what the writer call magical thinking when it came to political issues. I think I now know what he meant. I think there are a large number of Argentinians that would agree the posts Lucas makes, I don't know if it would be a majority or not but certainly close to it. I think this gives us a window on to the thinking that goes on here and helps explain why things are as they are in Argentina.
 
Lucas said:
Probably the eggs will go off and the asado will be poisoned with the fumes...don't do it. :D

I can't tell you how glad I am that Latin American countries are fighting back against U.S.

Psyops, black ops and dirty dealings of every kind. Examples...

--rightwing disinformation campaigns, with the USAID funding faux NGOs (rightwing political organizing groups) and covertly funding rightwing journalists in Venezuela: Venezuela's legislature banned foreign money from the NGOs; don't know what they can do about journalists except to require disclosure and go after them if they're caught lying. (FOIAI requests here come back with all the names redacted, as if the rightwing journalists that the U.S. is funding in Venezuela is a U.S. national security matter.)

--the U.S. embassy funding/organizing a white separatist insurrection in Bolivia in 2008: Evo Morales threw the U.S. ambassador out of the country, with the backing, through UNASUR, of every country in South America; they worked together to defeat that coup against the hugely popular Morales.

--Morales ejecting the DEA, for spying and collusion with the white separatists; Morales' government then legalized the coca leaf (innocent medicinal leaf like marijuana)--to screams of anguish from the corrupt U.S. "war on drugs" establishment.

--Brazil's Lula da Silva absolutely refusing to play the U.S. "divide and conquer" game against Venezuela and rallying the opposition to the U.S. coup d'etat in Honduras.

And now Argentina has caught the U.S. with its pants down, importing guns and drugs that were likely headed to disruption/destabilization groups, or was it just U.S. corruption, which I have little doubt has become endemic in U.S. military/police-state operations in Latin America, as it certainly is in Iraq and Afghanistan?

Based on various spot studies that have been done, I would guess that half--HALF!--of the U.S. tax dollars appropriated for U.S. military operations and military aid around the world are corrupt. So we may be talking about up a trillion dollars just fucking stolen--stolen outright, stolen in goods, stolen by 'contractors' who do nothing, stolen by vastly inflated budgets for doing nothing, stolen for bogus operations like the U.S. "war on drugs" that haven't put even a dent in the hard drug trade, stolen by non-"reconstruction" in Iraq or Afghanistan, stolen every which way, by virtually everybody involved.

I'm glad that Latin American countries are getting vigilant because our government certainly is not. It is run by war profiteers who write their own tickets into our pocketbooks and write their own laws. And we, of course, have been prevented from having anything to say about it by ES&S/Diebold. Congress is a joke (one of the main purposes of the 'TRADE SECRET' voting machines). And President Obama either doesn't know, or can't do anything about it (simply has no power vs the war profiteers), or is swamped with other priorities, or (I hope not) doesn't care. I have to laugh at the budget cutting, currently going on. If they would simply cut the 50% or more fluff and bullshit out of the budgets of every private contractor leeching off the federal government, they could probably put the country in the black.

Go, Argentina! Go, Latin America! And do cherish and protect your democracies!

<all here>

Feel all better now? Rants, while not very informative, can sometimes relieve stress.

I assume you typed this with one hand while raising your other hand and shaking it about with your fist clinched?
 
"Go, Argentina! Go, Latin America! And do cherish and protect your democracies!"

Ah, Lucas, you mean "Democracies" like the ones in Venezuela and Bolivia headed by "Presidents for Life?"

Hopefully Ms. K won't follow the lead of the democratic leaders in those countries and decided that elections are just too much trouble.


 
gouchobob said:
Lucas, keep posting, although most of what you do is complete nonsense in my opinion. I remember once reading about how people in Argentina tend to engage in what the writer call magical thinking when it came to political issues. I think I now know what he meant. I think there are a large number of Argentinians that would agree the posts Lucas makes, I don't know if it would be a majority or not but certainly close to it. I think this gives us a window on to the thinking that goes on here and helps explain why things are as they are in Argentina.

There is another thread on this site about books or movies that could provide newcomers some insight into the complexities of Argentinos. Reading Lucas' posts might be a good beginning point for a certain strand of local thinking.
 
gouchobob said:
Lucas, keep posting, although most of what you do is complete nonsense in my opinion. I remember once reading about how people in Argentina tend to engage in what the writer call magical thinking when it came to political issues. I think I now know what he meant. I think there are a large number of Argentinians that would agree the posts Lucas makes, I don't know if it would be a majority or not but certainly close to it. I think this gives us a window on to the thinking that goes on here and helps explain why things are as they are in Argentina.

In all fairness, Gaucho, a large number of Americans believed in "hope and change" not that long ago. What's that if not magical thinking.
 
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