Where can I avail self-defense training in BA

[nicoenarg]

Nico,

I don't really have the desire to respond to all of your points. My example about 4 guys and Krag Maga was really to show that it, like other martial arts, often teaches how to react in hypothetical situations that would never be possible in real life. But you should search for Krag Maga on youtube. There are some amazing videos.

You pretty much agreed with my point in your PS. It isn't a piece of cake to disarm even one person.

Also, you are absolutely correct about unstable people pointing a gun at you. As you admitted, it's not a piece of cake to disarm anyone (even a Paco crazed madman). Not sure how much your brown belt Karate chop is going to help out.

Yeah I have seen the videos on youtube. But all of the videos on youtube are based around "set pieces", unless there is a video that was taped while an actual event was happening. That is how marketing works. That is of course not to say that Krav Maga is all marketing and nothing real. Like I said, it began in real circumstances and out of a real need to actually protect oneself.

And yes, I agree with most of your points, it isn't easy to just go to a class and think, "oh, lemme see if I can disarm that dude right over there". Self defense training wouldn't be complete or about self defense if it didn't teach you discipline and about when to act and when not to act. Without discipline, an instructor would just be getting you ready to get murdered.

I don't think Ceviche was asking about WHAT self defense is. I think all he was asking was WHERE to get classes. We don't know what he is capable of or what he thinks about standing his ground. I also don't think we are in a position to tell Ceviche that he can't do it and that he will get himself killed. Only he himself and his instructor would be able to judge that.

Different people have different perceptions on what they should or shouldn't stand up for. In different parts of the world, people die for freedom. In other parts of the world, people die for their idols in their temples. Everyone comes to the conclusion of what is worth dying for on their own. For me, my family members' lives are more important than mine. For others it ought not be the same.

 

[Iznogud]

I do not go straight into the building but check around before doing it. Keep walking past your door if there's something or someone you do not feel is right.

Also use the glass door to watch for movement behind my back and am ready to break the key in the slot if need be. Not bringing any danger into my home.

If you bring them into your place your situation is not bound to improve once you get privacy.

Small things that you make into a habit.

This post should really be the end of this thread. Other than actually studying Krag Maga or another "practical" martial art, this advice is as good as you are going to get.

Please, this might be the end of your ideas on the subject but there's plenty more to it. No one has the last word on this subject since it is constantly evolving. MO and countertactics vary and change permanently. Even fighting violence with violence is not the simplest or most effective solution. In most cases you only have to work on making the next guy a more attractive target than yourself. This does not involve any martial art.

 

[Dublin2BuenosAires]

You walk into your building, before you reach the elevator, you are held at gunpoint and taken to your apartment to be robbed. Can one avoid walking alone into the building at night.... Self defense anyone

What's your self defence plan, because in this event I'm saying handover everything and live.

What is your suggestion? Roundhouse to the revolver and hope you don't get shot in the face by an accomplice you haven't yet seen?

Sorry, i couldn't find an appropriate point in this argument to insert a sarcastic, used to death 'rolleyes' icon.

 

[nicoenarg]

You walk into your building, before you reach the elevator, you are held at gunpoint and taken to your apartment to be robbed. Can one avoid walking alone into the building at night.... Self defense anyone

What?! Let them rob you and live? Unless you wanna die. I don't know. You're held at gunpoint and all they want to do is rob you. I don't see any other way out of it. Just give them what they want.

 

[sleslie23]

Yeah I have seen the videos on youtube. But all of the videos on youtube are based around "set pieces", unless there is a video that was taped while an actual event was happening. That is how marketing works. That is of course not to say that Krav Maga is all marketing and nothing real. Like I said, it began in real circumstances and out of a real need to actually protect oneself.

And yes, I agree with most of your points, it isn't easy to just go to a class and think, "oh, lemme see if I can disarm that dude right over there". Self defense training wouldn't be complete or about self defense if it didn't teach you discipline and about when to act and when not to act. Without discipline, an instructor would just be getting you ready to get murdered.

I don't think Ceviche was asking about WHAT self defense is. I think all he was asking was WHERE to get classes. We don't know what he is capable of or what he thinks about standing his ground. I also don't think we are in a position to tell Ceviche that he can't do it and that he will get himself killed. Only he himself and his instructor would be able to judge that.

Different people have different perceptions on what they should or shouldn't stand up for. In different parts of the world, people die for freedom. In other parts of the world, people die for their idols in their temples. Everyone comes to the conclusion of what is worth dying for on their own. For me, my family members' lives are more important than mine. For others it ought not be the same.

If you read my post, I specifically said they were demonstrations. Twice in fact.

Everything you say I agree with. The only thing I would add is that all "self-defense" classes and instructors are not created equal. Dublin2BuenosAires's post is good advice. As good as you are going to get on a message board like this.

 

[nicoenarg]

If you read my post, I specifically said they were demonstrations. Twice in fact.

Everything you say I agree with. The only thing I would add is that all "self-defense" classes and instructors are not created equal. Dublin2BuenosAires's post is good advice. As good as you are going to get on a message board like this.

Actually good advice on this thread would be for people to suggest to Ceviche, and to the rest who might come to this thread after reading the title, where he can avail self-defense training in BA.

 

[sleslie23]

Actually good advice on this thread would be for people to suggest to Ceviche, and to the rest who might come to this thread after reading the title, where he can avail self-defense training in BA.

If that happened, what would you do with your time? 90% of this board is inane comments. Many of those come from you and I.

I have a meeting now Nico, but I'll talk to you on Monday.

 

[nicoenarg]

If that happened, what would you do with your time? 90% of this board is inane comments. Many of those come from you and I.

I have a meeting now Nico, but I'll talk to you on Monday.

I don't know. Maybe something useful and less annoying to others like studying or something. You know...

 

[Ceviche]

I don't think Ceviche was asking about WHAT self defense is. I think all he was asking was WHERE to get classes. We don't know what he is capable of or what he thinks about standing his ground. I also don't think we are in a position to tell Ceviche that he can't do it and that he will get himself killed. Only he himself and his instructor would be able to judge that.

Thanks a Ton, brother!

Thats exactly was my point.

The thread got too ugly, unnecessarily. All I asked was a very simple question ( requiring a simple answer) but most unfortunately and very strangely, it turned out that every 2nd person posting on this thread ,tried to become my daddy or mommy giving me unwanted/ uninvited/ unbidden/ unasked/ unrequested/ unsolicited advise/suggestion/guidance. I did not even read this thread for past 24 hours.

And coming back to the reason for my original query, I always believe :-

"There are two ways to sleep at night... be ignorant or be prepared!"

 

[earlyretirement]

Honestly, I don't think there is any big risk of your place getting broken into if you practice good common sense.

I've only heard of a few incidents where people had things stolen from their properties and each time it was just plain stupidity.

1) I met this guy from Europe before that admitted he got robbed not once but twice. But get this...he was picking up random gay guys at some club and bringing them home. The first time I guess he got robbed. The guy put something in his drink and he woke up the next day with his laptop stolen.

This foolish guy a few nights later went back to the same place he met this guy and picked up another guy and got robbed again!

2) I heard about a few foreigners that picked up prostitutes and brought them back to their place. And in their place they had tons of expensive stuff like ipads, ipods, iphones, laptops, etc. All out in the open. The next morning when they woke up they had stuff missing.

Honestly, if you are careful and don't let strangers in your place your odds of getting robbed are very slim if you live in an apartment in a nice neighborhood.

If you do feel the need to bring strangers home then just have any valuables locked away and preferably in a safe that is not in view.

I'm sure there are LOTS of ex-pats (both males and females) that are going to pick up people at bars/clubs but if you are careful about it you will avoid problems.

Even if you live in a nice apartment and it's nicely furnished, if you keep a low profile and use common sense who you allow in your place.... your odds of getting broken into are not likely.